I'm a bit disappointed in Half Elf

[Vazok1]

could anyone confirm if half-elfs get the +1 to skill points per level that humans get? i couldnt find any referance to it anywhere else

[Aerendil]

could anyone confirm if half-elfs get the +1 to skill points per level that humans get? i couldnt find any referance to it anywhere else

I sincerely doubt they do. There needs to be a reason to choose Human as a race, and if Half-Elf comes with all of the Human perks and then some, it would make Human completely redundant.

As for the Dilettante feats, also keep in mind they're FREE. Nothing lost, nothing gained, really. If it gets you a free bonus, then great. If not, no biggie.
Personally, I see a few of them as being quite powerful already. A half-elf Warchanter, for example, could be Dil : Fighter and have full martial weapon use without needing to splash a martial class or wait for Warchanter II PrE. That's pretty nice.

/shrug.
Just my 2cp.

[andbr22]

New non twinked wizard... Take cleric/FvS Dilettante -> you will be able to wand whip self health. You will get -1 to UMD for Heal scrolls -> quite usefull.
If they have elfves enchantments (i don't know) you will get Elven arcanum! for more SP without terribad -2 elven Condition.

[zorander6]

No half elves do not get the +1 skill points. I think I'm going to re-roll my cleric for half elf as I can take the fighter dilettante and get all martial weapons. Other than that kinda meh about them right now. Once more enhancements are added might be more interesting. All stats start at 8 so nothing special on the stats front.

[andbr22]

from release note:
You are able to use wands and scrolls as if you were a level one cleric, and for item use purposes you count as a level one cleric in addition to any other classes you possess.

That mean it counts as 1 level cleric who could UMD heal scroll with 5% bonus, because this scroll is fro this class usage.

HE is propably still not finished. Keep in mind that this race was anounced rather late.

[Vazok1]

That mean it counts as 1 level cleric who could UMD heal scroll with 5% bonus, because this scroll is fro this class usage.

in all my ddo time i've not come across this info before, does this mean that with 1 level of cleric thingy i get +5% to my chance to activate a heal scroll? and i assume 2 levels of clreic delithingy would give +10%? (they said something about a possibility of increasing the levels via enhancements)

[EKKM]

Except that means having to wait an extra level for the spells and abilities you should have gained at this level.

It also means missing out on the pure-class Capstone enhancement.

It also means -1 to your offensive spell DC's.

Missing out on the cleric capstone isn't exactly a disaster, neither is being a level behind on the spells.
Where does that -1 dc come from and what weapon will your pure class battle cleric use?
Also is perform a class skill once you took the feat or will you only be able to raise it to 11?

It's actually -1 spell penetration to beat spell resistance. DC is based off spell level and casting attribute while spell pen is based on the caster level.

OT - I see HEs as written now as being focused towards soloing or well rounded characters, not as much for powergamers (like Half Orc)

[k1ngp1n]

in all my ddo time i've not come across this info before, does this mean that with 1 level of cleric thingy i get +5% to my chance to activate a heal scroll? and i assume 2 levels of clreic delithingy would give +10%? (they said something about a possibility of increasing the levels via enhancements)

It's because it doesn't work that way. 1 Level of cleric doesn't give you a bonus to UMD. It's a caster level check. Also, you can't have 2 levels of Dilettante. UMD is UMD, Caster Level is Caster Level.

[Vazok1]

It's because it doesn't work that way. 1 Level of cleric doesn't give you a bonus to UMD. It's a caster level check. Also, you can't have 2 levels of Dilettante. UMD is UMD, Caster Level is Caster Level.

ah ok, well if they dont stack then its pointless to me lol i'll get the rogue one or something like that

[Bodic]

This race on Rogue is a good thing sure less DPS output than a halfing , but Free scimy's screams forget Khopesh feat and add the TRII ability and PA.

[weewoo0]

has anyone found out whether or not the fighter diletant feat counts towards say... whirling steel strike or anything else the requires a martial weapon proficiency to qualify for a feat?

[xberto]

Yeah really right now as it stands it seems more viable to just go human for most builds instead of half-elf. The Diletante feats are just not good enough to replace the free feat a human gets and Elf racial enhancements are poor enough that the human ones trump them anyways so getting a mix isn't really worthwhile.

You confirmed no free human feat? thats a bummer

[Sylvurdragon]

Martial Proficiency: Bard, Battle Cleric... I can't wait to check it out.

I'm with you there...I'm planning on remaking my bard without fighter levels after this :-D

[Visty]

half elves suck in pnp, why should they be differant here?

[Bravosi]

I'm planning on making a half elf sorcerer with 18 con and 18 cha, grabbing the favored soul feat.

The wand & scroll usage goes up with character level so later on he will be able to use raise dead scrolls without a UMD check.

[Deathseeker]

This is what Im thinking the future enhancements might be like (at least this would make it more appealing for me to TR into on a few toons)...

Barb: +1 DR per enhancement level
Rogue: +1 SA dmg per enhancement level
Monk: +1 AC per enhancement level (assuming scaling minimum Wis requirement)
Bard: (no idea)
FVS/Cleric: +2 Caster level check per enhancement (assuming scaling min Cha/Wis requirement)
Sorc/Wiz: +2 Caster level check per enhancement (assuming scaling min Cha/Int requirement)
Rgr/Ftr: +1 to-hit per enhancement level

To me, that would make it an interesting choice vs the free feat/skills of a Human. Elves/Drow are hurting so bad right now Im struggling with reasons to use them already anyways (just my opinion of course, not trying to insult anyone's current Elf/Drow choice). I'd like to see Elf/Drow weapon specific damage enhancements get a nice boost and the Elf mana enhancements bumped up to make them more of a choice.

[Deathseeker]

I'm planning on making a half elf sorcerer with 18 con and 18 cha, grabbing the favored soul feat.

The wand & scroll usage goes up with character level so later on he will be able to use raise dead scrolls without a UMD check.

Isn't it a caster level check, not a character level check? Dont think you can use raise dead scrolls without UMD due to Delitante feats. Please correct me if Im wrong though as my opinion on HE will improve if that's the case.

[Bravosi]

Did some research and found Eladrin stated:

"The Cleric Dilettante can use a Raise Dead scroll with a caster level check"

So I was incorrect in my statement.

[Raiderone]

I'd like to see the Elf Attack/Range Melee and Damage I & II added for Half-Elf's.

[Artagon]

I'll be honest, I think that once they have the additional enhancements for dilettante they will be about where I would expect they be as far as power.