The Hell Chanter, 34pt 2 Rogue / 6 Fighter / 12 Bard

[Kahath]

I have got many bards. I love 'em, all of them. The 18 / 2, 16 / 2 / 2, 15 / 3 / 2 with a barb splash, and the pure variants. But now here's something new. I welcome you to the new reincarnation of my 18 / 2 Bard!

Features:
* Evasion
* Good HP
* Can be healed by both Arcane and Divine
* WC II
* Healer Friendly
* Kensai I

I choose to level him mixed which has several advantages and disadvantages during level. At first he gets level two spells rather early, including rage and blur, get's the song and several bard enhancements early. A downside is that he gets displacement and haste rather late. Although the goal was to get the 5/- from WC 1 rather early as it aids a lot during leveling. I chose Warforged to get 125% fort to utilise the WC II song, and to gain immunities and the ability to be healed using arcane spells. Two Weapon fighting was a no brainer as my previous bard already has two Mineral II khopeshes, and is currently working on her Lightnings II.

2 Rogue / 6 Fighter / 12 Bard
True Neutral, Warforged
34 pt. Past Life: Bard

STR: 18 +2 Fighter +5 Level +2 Rage +2 Tome +3 Exceptional +6 Item = 38
DEX: 15 +1 Rogue +6 Item + 2 Tome = 24
CON: 16 +2 Tome +2 WF +6 Item +2 Rage = 28
INT: 8 +2 Tome = 10
WIS: 8 +2 Tome = 10
CHA: 8 +2 Tome +6 Item = 16

On a 32pt I would drop wisdom by 2.

Level Progression:
1: Rogue: 2WF
2: Bard
3: Fighter: Weapon Focus: Slash, Power Attack
4: Bard
5: Bard
6: Bard: Toughness
7: Fighter: Khopesh
8: Bard
9: Bard: Extend Spell
10: Rogue
11: Fighter
12: Fighter: IC: Slash, I2WF
13: Bard
14: Bard
15: Fighter: G2WF
16: Bard
17: Fighter: WS: Slash
18: Bard: O2WF
19: Bard
20: Bard

One may also level him like classic 2 / 6 / 12 Splits and start with 2 rogue, then 6 fighter and the go all bard. But I prefer to even out the skills every few levels and to have the advantages of being a bard (beneficial spells like blur, rage, expeditious retreat, invisibility; and songs) earlier throughout the leveling process.

Important Enhancements:

Fighter Kensai I
Fighter Khopesh Mastery I
Fighter Haste Boost II
Fighter Strength II
Fighter Toughness II
Warforged Constitution II
Warforged Toughness IV
Bard Inspire Damage III
Bard Inspire Attack II
Warchanter II
Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Sneak Attack Training I
Warforged PA III
Healers Friend II

At the beginning take the bard charisma enhancements if you do not have the gear available to twink him enough to cast spells. Respec them later.

Saves:
F / R / W
4 / 8 / 8 Bard
0 / 3 / 0 Rogue
5 / 2 / 2 Fighter
4 / 4 / 4 GH
9 / 7 / 0 Stat
5 / 5 / 5 Resistance
1 / 1 / 1 Alchemic Ritual
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28 Fort
30 Reflex
20 Will

HP:
.. 20 Base
+ 60 Fighter
+ 12 Rogue
+ 72 Bard
+ 180 Constitution
+ 22 Toughness
+ 20 Minos
+ 40 Racial Toughness
+ 20 Fighter Toughness
+ 45 Shroud
+ 10 Draconic
+ 30 GFL
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= 531 Standing

Critics/Comments please.

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

Huh? Why would you build an 18 str bard without playing with halforc first?

just trying to save you some time

[Feylina]

man that form is horrid to read

from what i could tell, you are missing your lvl 15 feat. showing 10 of 11 possible.

that being said.

why 2 rogue?

evasion - will your saves be high enough on a wf with 24 dex. sure on normal but what about elite / epic?
1 dex - meh
1d6+1 sneak damage. mebe a training for extra + hit.
fluff

6 fighter? (wf: slash, ws: slash)

kensai I - 1 reflex vs magic, +1/+1 hit/dam, +2 dam before crit sig weapon
+2 str
haste boost II
fighter toughness II

vs.

14 bard with 4 fighter (wf: slash, ws: slash)

inspire courage upgrade - +2/+2 hit / dam
+1 str
haste boost II
fighter toughness II


just pointing out the differences between 12/6/2 bard/fighter/rogue and 14/4/2 bard/fighter/rogue or a 14/6 bard/fighter

Just wanted to toss some numbers around for ya. kinda a food for thought.


I think the best dps combination of this type of split would be the 14/4/2 if you can spare the feat. looks like you have all you need though unless you want another toughness.

my thoughts neway.

think i would also drop the 2 wis into int. +1 will save = zzz whereas you could pick up some points elsewhere.

[Kahath]

Huh? Why would you build an 18 str bard without playing with halforc first?

just trying to save you some time

Was considered and pushed aside for a later project, but thanks for bringing it up.

man that form is horrid to read

from what i could tell, you are missing your lvl 15 feat. showing 10 of 11 possible.

Fixed that for. Thanks for bringing it up.

why 2 rogue?

evasion - will your saves be high enough on a wf with 24 dex. sure on normal but what about elite / epic?
1 dex - meh
1d6+1 sneak damage. mebe a training for extra + hit.
fluff

Evasion - with 30 reflex I will not be 100% save, I know that.
1 dex - just to get the dex score even.
1d6+3 plus +1 to hit should I get sneak attacks.
Fluff - yes OL, balance, tumble is just fluff...

6 fighter? (wf: slash, ws: slash)

kensai I - 1 reflex vs magic, +1/+1 hit/dam, +2 dam before crit sig weapon
+2 str
haste boost II
fighter toughness II
+8 HP

vs.

14 bard with 4 fighter (wf: slash, ws: slash)


inspire courage upgrade - +2/+2 hit / dam
+1 str
haste boost II
fighter toughness II

Aye. Since +2 STR is pracitcally +1/+1 for me, it's practically even with the 14/4 Split in terms of myself. Sure the party benefits more from a 14/4 split.

just pointing out the differences between 12/6/2 bard/fighter/rogue and 14/4/2 bard/fighter/rogue or a 14/6 bard/fighter

Just wanted to toss some numbers around for ya. kinda a food for thought.

Aye appreciated. But believe me I have a lot of bards already (5 on Keeper awaiting their arrival on Ghallanda, with that one three on Cannith) and I have tried most of those splits (the one missing being the 15 / 3 / 2), hence a new one 12 / 6 / 2.

I think the best dps combination of this type of split would be the 14/4/2 if you can spare the feat. looks like you have all you need though unless you want another toughness.

I really wanted to fit O2WF into this build.

my thoughts neway.

think i would also drop the 2 wis into int. +1 will save = zzz whereas you could pick up some points elsewhere.

CHA and INT are not really needed, as I neither need the SP, DC nor the extra skill point. True CON could go to 17, leaving me with an uneven score until I can acquire better gear like +1 Exceptional, or a +3 Tome.

[Fionivar]

Oh, your level progression is currently 13/5/2. Missed a level of fighter in there somewhere. I'm just more interested in when you planned fighter 6 and kensai.

[Kahath]

Oh, your level progression is currently 13/5/2. Missed a level of fighter in there somewhere. I'm just more interested in when you planned fighter 6 and kensai.

Thanks, fixed it. When swapping the text layout to a more readable one I miscopied a line.

Rather late. At first the fighter levels help you to gain the Warchanter, later on they provide with helpful enhancements throughout the leveling progress; topping everything off with Kensai I. It's basically a personal choice if you like Kensai I first or Warchanter first. I'd take WC first and stray bard levels in to keep the skills maxxed.

[Sani_Medicor]

Hey...someone else with a 12/6/2 build! It's the next big thing! I've been messing around with this split the last couple months. The final build is in my sig, if you'd like to compare. Have fun!

[Kahath]

Hey...someone else with a 14/6/2 build! It's the next big thing! I've been messing around with this split the last couple months. The final build is in my sig, if you'd like to compare. Have fun!

Thanks, I also considered going dwarf for quite some time.

[DethTrip]

Hey...someone else with a 14/6/2 build! It's the next big thing! I've been messing around with this split the last couple months. The final build is in my sig, if you'd like to compare. Have fun!

Ok, so we will be able to build lvl22 chrs in the next update?? XD

[Kahath]

Ok, so we will be able to build lvl22 chrs in the next update?? XD

It most certainly would be rad

[Sani_Medicor]

Ok, so we will be able to build lvl22 chrs in the next update?? XD

It was available for a limited time in the ddo store. You didn't get the email?