Update 7 Named Item thread

[Vissarion]

No, you don't need the charisma, because this is a mid-level item and you're not casting level 9 spells anyhow. It's an ML 11 item, so your charisma requirement is just 16. Eagle up.


12 starting Charisma would be abnormally high for any type of Favored Soul...

Like I said, it is highly unlikely (one might say impossible) that we will come to agree on these matters, so ceasing the debate seems to be the most prudent course. I prefer static items, you prefer casting via Eagles Splendor and DP to sustain your stats. End of story.

[Kenaustin]

Genasi, while you are in this thread I wanted to ask if a small change can be made to the Utility Vest.

The Utility Vest description reads, "It looks like this leather outfit was designed by someone who wanted to be able to tamper with or escape from any trap or device. It is filled with secret pockets and odd tools."

The interesting part of the description is "tamper with or escape from any trap or device". I believe that this demonstrates that the item was designed for the purpose of circumventing traps and devices, which involves the Disable Device skill. The Disable Device skill's related attribute is Intelligence so I do not understand why this item has Dexterity. I believe that Intelligence would be the more appropriate attribute modifier as it would be more in keeping with the theme and intent of the item.

Moreover, I find it disappointing that Dexterity is the ONLY attribute modifier that has been added to ALL Rogue orientated named items to date, and I would like to see some more consideration given to the attribute modifiers assigned to Rogue items in future.

Rogues have numerous skills which are not all dexterity based so it would be nice if this is taken into account for the creation of future named items, however, it would be great to see this change make it into Update 7 so it is more in keeping with its description.

[The_Cataclysm]

Moreover, I find it disappointing that Dexterity is the ONLY attribute modifier that has been added to ALL Rogue orientated named items to date, and I would like to see some more consideration given to the attribute modifiers assigned to Rogue items in future.

I agree. Unless you are going to make dex stacking for rogues, there is no need for it to appear on every item that would be considered focused for rogues.

[Angelus_dead]

Moreover, I find it disappointing that Dexterity is the ONLY attribute modifier that has been added to ALL Rogue orientated named items to date

What makes you say that? Where are you reading this class orientation from?

[Fecerak]

I would like to see the epiced version of the light repeater... Anyone?
I guess not :/

[maddmatt70]

Actually, though limited in weapon variation. There are a couple 2wF melee FvS in my guild with 40 charisma and no strength who do quite well for themselves.

Epic Dynasta Falcutta. That weapon is limited of course when we fight devils in the next update for instance it will be again not very potent.

[Angelus_dead]

Testing the Cloak of Night from the Halloween event shows that due to a fairly high proc rate (10-20% ?), even the ML 4 version is a superior cloak to the ML 11 Cloak of the Zephyr found in the Laliat raid.

Intermittent uptime of a spell no player can cast (Improved Invisibilty) is better than 100% passive uptime of a spell lots of players can cast (Blur). But even if no group member can provide Blur or Displacement, the Cloak of Night seems to be a better item. And obviously, it just gets better when you upgrade it to higher tiers, quickly gaining the same perma-blur effect as the raid cloak (although a mislabeled variant).

[sephiroth1084]

What makes you say that? Where are you reading this class orientation from?

Well, the rogue ToD rings all have Dex as their +6 bonus, and (I believe) 2 of the 3 also have it as the exceptional, several of the epic items that rogues would clearly be interested in have a bonus to Dex, as do many other named items that are designed for roguish characters.

Albeit items made with fighters and barbs in mind tend to favor Str, while stuff for casters favor Int and Cha, etc... That we have some flexibility in how we go about equipping ourselves makes this a fairly minor issue, but it's there. Personally, I don't see it as being significant enough to bother working on. If you're a Str build, pick up more of the Str gear (Encrusted Ring, for instance).

[Anneliese]

Mmm... 14 base CHA is nice to be able to easily get away with not even needing CHA items at any level at all. Sure if you can fit one in for a tiny bit of SP go ahead, but not ever needing a SP item? Being able to cast things like Heal or maybe even Mass Heal while disjunctioned? Bonus!

12 base + 2 tome + 3 enhancement + 2 capstone = 19 without items

Once you get higher tomes you can save some AP on enhancements or even start with 10 charisma.

[Mister_Peace]

You're requesting a big downgrade... for most characters, Boon to Undeath is worse than nothing... I know you're thinking of PM, but Necromancy +2 is something of wide applicability (Wiz, Sor, Cle, FVS, Dru)

What if Boon to Undeath were a blue crystal? Too powerful?

[TheIvanovFamily]

I am glad to see that the last 2 pages of the "update 7 named items" thread has stayed on topic.

[Meretrix]

From another thread regarding the Mabar festival loot...

We did add a couple of things to some of them, but the general thought was that they're about epic caliber so should be classified as such. All other level 20 required items are epic. A couple of them have new additions to their effects list.

Does anyone have any pics of the new/updated items?

[Dylos_Moon]

Does anyone have any pics of the new/updated items?

I've been wondering the same thing myself for awhile as I was unable to attend the Friday festival.

[Boromirs]

curious as to what the fused/unlocked Blade of Fury might look like...

[Angelus_dead]

curious as to what the fused/unlocked Blade of Fury might look like...

The devs probably haven't really decided yet, as the dungeons containing the upgrade ingredients won't be released until much later; just like how the Mindsunderer loot wasn't upgradable to the final form until Dreaming Dark.

We can safely predict that all these +4 weapons will become +5, and +5 stats will become +6, but whatever else might happen is hard to guess.

What could be funny & interesting is if you have more than one choice for Fusible. Suppose there are three weapons in the Droaam Onslaught pack, and you can pick any one of them to merge with Blade of Fury into a new greatsword...

[Boromirs]

The devs probably haven't really decided yet, as the dungeons containing the upgrade ingredients won't be released until much later; just like how the Mindsunderer loot wasn't upgradable to the final form until Dreaming Dark.

We can safely predict that all these +4 weapons will become +5, and +5 stats will become +6, but whatever else might happen is hard to guess.

What could be funny & interesting is if you have more than one choice for Fusible. Suppose there are three weapons in the Droaam Onslaught pack, and you can pick any one of them to merge with Blade of Fury into a new greatsword...

Thats what Im thinking as well, this new fusion thing will be allowed to mix and match other fuseable items and not just be locked into 1 single item (like a set bonus or something)... I see this weapon having a lot of potential... maybe with proper fusing it can rival the eSoS? (and maybe you can fuse 3 or more items together?)

[Diyon]

A note on fusible. That seems to heavily imply another f2p quest package. It might not be, but sure looks like it.

[Boromirs]

A note on fusible. That seems to heavily imply another f2p quest package. It might not be, but sure looks like it.

Of course! You're just figuring this out? I thought it was understood

[sirgog]

A note on fusible. That seems to heavily imply another f2p quest package. It might not be, but sure looks like it.

Not necessarily.

The top Ioun Stones most frequently drop from F2P stuff (particularly Tempest's Spine on exactly Hard difficulty and house level 11 quests on exactly Normal). They don't unsuppress in F2P content.

[Diyon]

Not necessarily.

The top Ioun Stones most frequently drop from F2P stuff (particularly Tempest's Spine on exactly Hard difficulty and house level 11 quests on exactly Normal). They don't unsuppress in F2P content.

That's why I said "It might not be" =P