Cleric healing while in the melee in Shroud?

[voodoogroves]

I notice folks don't do this that much.

As my clonk gets up there, he's going to end up 3/17 w/ Radiant Servant and Fists of Light. I'm sore tempted to stand in the melee w/ the Radiant Aura going mass healing on me when required. Is that generally "bad", or do others have experience with it?

[FuzzyDuck81]

i have my FvS sit in the middle of melee using mass heals on myself a lot of the time, but there will usually be a healer further away from the fight throwing mass heals in too - so long as the group keeps 1 near & 1 far it should be fine, its mostly just a precaution against lag when the blades get close

[taurean430]

I think that you should gauge what your group can handle before actually going through with it. In my observations so far, there are groups that don't have a spasm when the healer steps into melee range... they are like 1 in 8 though.

If you feel you have the hp to survive I don't see why not. Oftentimes you will find my main in Harry's face swinging away in between mass cures/mass heals. In a competent group this isn't an issue. Many groups though will freak out on you for doing so. You might even hear a gasp or two over the mic, lol.

[twix]

I melee and heal with my Battle Cleric every time i do the shroud with him. Ive done this on hard,elite,and normal of course.Its actually not that hard and im surprised I dont see other battle clerics doing this.I made him to melee and heal and thats how i play him.In pug groups there are questions at first but after i explain my build and then prove i can heal and fight at the same time all is well.

[rendet]

Don't try this with less than 500hp though. I always melee in shrouds even before the aura came out. Once you get sp regen items like the torc and a conc opp it is very efficient.

[gott_ist_tot]

It depends on whether you/your toon is ready for this.

My experience is this: when i was 400ish HP lag killed me once and I stopped meleeing out of shame. I started to melee again when I hit 500 hp and never looked back - I stay alive in spite of occasional lag spike. With lots of sp and amrath belts I can settle on throwing max+emp+quickened mass cures only and contribute to dps more than if I used mass heal.

But if I'm a sole healer in inexperienced PUG which can result in quite-a-few rounder, I do cast mass heals.

[aristarchus1000]

I did this on my favored soul/monk for a while, it works ok, but you should make sure you don't risk the raid in case of bad luck. In this case, make sure you have plenty of hit points to survive a lag spike, a meteor swarm with a failed save (a roll of 1) and a few melee hits. This generally means around 500+ hitpoints.

[voodoogroves]

Thanks guys for the advice

I'm sitting near 400 HP right now; need to make an HP item and a Con-Op item; got the Torc already.

My thinking was the radiant aura is basically free - it takes nothing to cast and if I'm on a cycle of the healing burst and mass cures / heals interspersed then it's even "more", let alone if I land a healing curse or the fists of light finisher.

[grodon9999]

Don't try this with less than 500hp though. I always melee in shrouds even before the aura came out. Once you get sp regen items like the torc and a conc opp it is very efficient.

That 500 HP is WAY conservative if you have evasion. I have 404 and do this all the time and have never died in Shroud with my healer.

[Loceish]

For me, it would be dependent on the group. If the group is doing well, and I feel that they won't need much more than 'casual' healing, then I'd jump in. Otherwise, stay out. I've had a few shrouds, where I don't even know how we got to part 4, the dps was soo bad, and multiple people must have either thought it was funny to take off their con and heavy fort items, or were just levels and levels behind on gear. Some "fun" groups may require the extra attention that isn't needed with others.

Just make sure you don't let anyone die. If are attacking Harry, some people would tend to blame your healing when they die. If you are outside, just chilling casting heals, they'll just call it a lag death like any other. -Though, i've let someone who was exceptionally lower in hp than anyone else die just because it made healing more regular for me-