Builder request: TWF Acrobat

[DevilButcher]

Requirements:

-28pt. Human build
- Single level or Barb taken at level 2 for faster movement, shields, martial weapons choice
- TWF Feat chain

I would like a swift build that's fun to play; I solo a lot and would like early access to high UMD.
My biggest problem when I was trying to make this build was to reach acceptable HP and need help with what would fit in to the normal "safe" zone for a solo rogue required HP. Thank you.

[AylinIsAwesome]

Before I found out about Opportunist, I was planning on doing a Rogue 13/Ranger 6/Barbarian 1 build.

Starting stats:

18 STR
15 DEX
14 CON
10 INT
8 WIS
8 CHA


(I know you said 28-points, but 16 STR and 12 INT or 16 STR and 16 DEX would work instead).


Level Progression/Feats:

Rogue (Toughness, Dodge)
Barbarian
Ranger (Khopesh Prof, FE Undead)
Ranger
Ranger
Ranger (Mobility)
Ranger
Ranger
Rogue (Spring Attack)
Rogue
Rogue
Rogue (Improved Critical)
Rogue
Rogue
Rogue (Power Attack)
Rogue
Rogue (Crippling Strike)
Rogue (GTWF)
Rogue
Rogue (Improved Evasion)


Enhancements:

10 Haste Boost 4
1 Sprint Boost 1
1 Barbarian Power Attack 1
2 Human STR
4 Human CON
10 Subtle Backstabbing 4
6 Racial Toughness 3
2 Ranger Favoured Attack 1
3 Ranger Favoured Damage 2
1 Ranger Favoured Resistance 1
4 Ranger Tempest 1
1 Rogue Faster Sneaking 1
6 Rogue Thief-Acrobat 2
10 Rogue Sneak Attack Training 4
3 Rogue Balance 2
3 Rogue Tumble 2
12 Rogue DEX 3
1 Barbarian Toughness 1


Skills of course the basics: Search, DD, UMD, Jump, ect.



With U7 changes you'd get two extra APs (I'd put them into Extra Action Boost 1).

With Opportunist in the picture you would definitely want to switch out Crippling Strike for it, maybe also Improved Evasion.

At this point though, I really don't think that the Ranger benefits outweigh the benefit of more Rogue levels, so you drop those completely and go Rogue 19/Barbarian (changing your APs to get more to-hit, more Haste Boosts, ect), and for feats drop Dodge/Mobility/Spring Attack for TWF/ITWF and OTWF (or Quickdraw).


Myself though I'll be focusing on my Assassin, and the character slot this Rogue was in will probably end up being a Half-Orc Barbarian or a Half-Elf of some sort as I don't want to level up two nearly identical Rogues (and I wanna play with the new races).


Hope that helps a bit.

[DevilButcher]

--snip--
At this point though, I really don't think that the Ranger benefits outweigh the benefit of more Rogue levels, so you drop those completely and go Rogue 19/Barbarian (changing your APs to get more to-hit, more Haste Boosts, ect), and for feats drop Dodge/Mobility/Spring Attack for TWF/ITWF and OTWF (or Quickdraw).
--snipe--
Hope that helps a bit.

Yes it does thank you.

I like mostly the idea going Rogue19/1barb (or 13rogue/1barb/6ranger but I would want to leave the 6ranger for last class to get.)

My problem when I tried to make a build like this build it only had 186HP(base HP) at level 20, it seemed a little low for a melee scrapper. Do you think that's enough HP??? Would the use of Stoneskin wands help here?

[AylinIsAwesome]

Yes it does thank you.

I like mostly the idea going Rogue19/1barb (or 13rogue/1barb/6ranger but I would want to leave the 6ranger for last class to get.)

My problem when I tried to make a build like this build it only had 186HP(base HP) at level 20, it seemed a little low for a melee scrapper. Do you think that's enough HP??? Would the use of Stoneskin wands help here?

20 Heroic Durability
12 Barbarian Level
22 Toughness feat
10 Barbarian Toughness
30 Racial Toughness
30 Greater False Life
78 13 Rogue levels
140 CON bonus (assuming +6 item, Human CON, +2 tome and +1 exceptional bonus)
10 Draconic Vitality
45 Shroud HP Item
=397

19/1 version
36 (6 more Rogue levels)
=433

13/6/1 version
48 Ranger levels
=445


Buffs:

20 Rage
40 Madstone Rage
20 Yugoloth Pot*
20 Yugoloth Pot hidden effect*
=100


So either 533 or 545 after full buffs (and lots of items). I think that should be fine for pretty much anything. And another 20 on top of that if you put +2 Exceptional CON on a ToD ring.


*: Note, drinking this will result in a decrease of 5% in attack rate.


EDIT: If you do go with Ranger, then you'll need to take all the Ranger levels by level 18, or you won't be able to get GTWF. I think getting Ranger early (level 3ish) is best, as that's where you're getting your TWF from, and it'll let you use Cure wands with no UMD check. Plus FE Undead will help a lot with going through Delera's and the Necro packs.

[DevilButcher]

Great! Thank you AylinIsAwesome.

The break down to get Leet HP with a rogue was something I always wanted to know.
I feel more confident being a melee rogue now. I will just make sure to hunt and use HP gear and Fort

[AylinIsAwesome]

Great! Thank you AylinIsAwesome.

The break down to get Leet HP with a rogue was something I always wanted to know.
I feel more confident being a melee rogue now. I will just make sure to hunt and use HP gear and Fort

You're welcome.