being told to do something that you know your character is not built to do

[MeliCat]

more of a whinge... but would like to know what others would do too... or situations where you'be told to play your character a particular way and you don't feel comfortable with that.

joined an lfm for ETK thinkinig 'oh good i'll get this one out of the way'. the leader however decided that the best way to do the end battle was for me to cast blade barriers in the corridors.

i told them i didn't have heighten and i really really wasn't comfortable about taking aggro but no, that's the way they wanted to do it. and apparnetly 2 feet away from the end of the corridor wasn't enough - it has to be like over into the lava. recast.

i dont' think my bbs did *any* damage. the rogues didn't need me as their evasion was working just fine... and basically i died a lot (no surprise... shame you can't cast bb remotely)

but hey i got told at the end of the the quest that that's what they've seen person xxx do on their cleric

i mean HELLO?????!!!! i'm not built that way. i TOLD you i'm not built that way. my cleric has hardly any gear yet as she's still quite new, has not been that lucky and none of the gear is btc.

all in all a truly horrible ETK and i asked them all to add me to their squelch list. don't ask me names - i only remember one of them and the guild of most of them.

so yeah, i'm already paranoid about being a really really crappy cleric and this has just been born out by these people who think that clerics MUST BE ABLE TO DO X,Y,Z


going to cry now that was not fun timez. not fun timez at all.

[SINIBYTE]

In TOD, I was once told to jump down and take care of the Elementals... on my Sorcerer. That ended well. At least I got to pike part 1, heh.

[MeliCat]

In TOD, I was once told to jump down and take care of the Elementals... on my Sorcerer. That ended well. At least I got to pike part 1, heh.

dance drain finger and a sorc is quick... but yes.. a GOOD leader would ask 'do you think you can do x, y, z'? and if you say 'no i don't feel comfortabel with that' would work *with* you to work out how you can add to the party.

[Aranticus]

sorry mel, my clr raised the bar on that one

[Emili]

sorry mel, my clr raised the bar on that one

I do it but... am not crazy bout doing so. Heathier or Ailiae (who'd evasion) am jumping circles in there... and always someone else in the background out of sight screamin' "Hjeal me!" and getting ticked off cause you're focus'd on the task at hand - being more on yourself.

[Aranticus]

In TOD, I was once told to jump down and take care of the Elementals... on my Sorcerer. That ended well. At least I got to pike part 1, heh.

its not really that hard on a sorc to take care of the elementals. etk is a different story as not all clerics are configured to take agro

[shagath]

its not really that hard on a sorc to take care of the elementals.

I think his sentence was sarcastic. Sorc can do pretty decent dps so why make them pike(it's so fast for a sorc to take care of elementals that it's almost considered piking) instead of dealing with the bosses? Or.... I misunderstood. I've done that raid as a sorc many times but that won't make an expert on how other builds works there. I usually dance them, help with the bosses and if I have spare time, kill them.

MeliCat, sometimes one must fall for people to understand. I had fun reading your story so it wasn't worthless.

EDIT: Added some stuff.

[Aranticus]

I think his sentence was sarcastic. Sorc can do pretty decent dps so why make them pike(it's so fast for a sorc to take care of elementals that it's almost considered piking) instead of dealing with the bosses? Or.... I misunderstood.

MeliCat, sometimes one must fall for people to understand. I had fun reading your story so it wasn't worthless.

if you just pick on only 1 portion of the post, it doesnt really fit in the context does it?

[shagath]

if you just pick on only 1 portion of the post, it doesnt really fit in the context does it?

Went a bit off topic there. I blame drinks!

[Celestialbeast]

In TOD, I was once told to jump down and take care of the Elementals... on my Sorcerer. That ended well. At least I got to pike part 1, heh.

He has excellent timing. I have never EVER seen anyone roll a 1 that fast. It was amazing.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

It's a situation I greatly dislike. It's why I don't do raids often.

Being forced to play using someone else's tactics is not fun to me, especially if my char was built a totally different way.

It is also the only time that so many of the complaints about builds are actually right!

When you are forced to play the way some one else plays, then yes! You had better have built your char the way they did! or expect everyone to be built.

It is the one thing many new playees who want to do different builds really don't understand....that sometimes, you don't get to play "your" way.

So many different builds work just fine, until you get to a raid....where you get forced to play in a way that the build is not good at.

But there is also the fact that many people (raid leaders) have been in a guild, where their friend's char always did something a certain way and it worked. And then they get in htis PUG, and the other players don't even know how to do it that way....even if their char could handle it.

One of the reasons PUGs have a bad rep. And it's not even the PUG's fault.

[Aranticus]

It has nothing to do with raids but rather pugs. I've done shrouds on my clr with 3 other clr in my group. I asked them to nuke or melée in part 4 and 5, they were surprised. I've duoed necro 3 stuff on elite on my ftr with a barb friend and I kept him alive. There are lots of examples, all monk/sor/clr/rgr/etc raids

It's a situation I greatly dislike. It's why I don't do raids often.

Being forced to play using someone else's tactics is not fun to me, especially if my char was built a totally different way.

It is also the only time that so many of the complaints about builds are actually right!

When you are forced to play the way some one else plays, then yes! You had better have built your char the way they did! or expect everyone to be built.

It is the one thing many new playees who want to do different builds really don't understand....that sometimes, you don't get to play "your" way.

So many different builds work just fine, until you get to a raid....where you get forced to play in a way that the build is not good at.

But there is also the fact that many people (raid leaders) have been in a guild, where their friend's char always did something a certain way and it worked. And then they get in htis PUG, and the other players don't even know how to do it that way....even if their char could handle it.

One of the reasons PUGs have a bad rep. And it's not even the PUG's fault.

[vVAnjilaVv]

I'm disappointed in you Meli, be strong.......be proud.......and don't cast ur blade barriers if you know what it will get you.

Some moron tries to tell me how to do something on my character that only IIIIIIIIIII know!!!!.......they are going to be told no, if they persist, they are going to be squelched....if it goes beyond that, I leave...noone and nothing in this game is worth putting up with attitudes like this.

An unfortunate syndrome of this game, many of the people who "play" it have turned into automatons who only know how to do things one way....I think that is part of the reason WF'ed are so popular :P

BTW, I love WF'ed, they rock...I just don't think like one in RL!!!

[Folonius]

more of a whinge... but would like to know what others would do too... or situations where you'be told to play your character a particular way and you don't feel comfortable with that.

joined an lfm for ETK thinkinig 'oh good i'll get this one out of the way'. the leader however decided that the best way to do the end battle was for me to cast blade barriers in the corridors.

i told them i didn't have heighten and i really really wasn't comfortable about taking aggro but no, that's the way they wanted to do it. and apparnetly 2 feet away from the end of the corridor wasn't enough - it has to be like over into the lava. recast.

i dont' think my bbs did *any* damage. the rogues didn't need me as their evasion was working just fine... and basically i died a lot (no surprise... shame you can't cast bb remotely)

but hey i got told at the end of the the quest that that's what they've seen person xxx do on their cleric

i mean HELLO?????!!!! i'm not built that way. i TOLD you i'm not built that way. my cleric has hardly any gear yet as she's still quite new, has not been that lucky and none of the gear is btc.

all in all a truly horrible ETK and i asked them all to add me to their squelch list. don't ask me names - i only remember one of them and the guild of most of them.

so yeah, i'm already paranoid about being a really really crappy cleric and this has just been born out by these people who think that clerics MUST BE ABLE TO DO X,Y,Z


going to cry now that was not fun timez. not fun timez at all.

Funny, I was in a similar situation with wizard king. There were 4 people total, a wizard, a cleric, a monk, and my ranger. They all split up, and told me to take a tower. I was slowly making my way up, shooting archers and ducking behind walls. I was moving pretty quick, but not fast enough for the monk and wizard (cleric kept dying). They come blazing by me, and tell me to move quicker. I run up the stairs only to find 12 skeleton archers and a closed door, so I run back down stairs and continue my tactics.

They ask me what I was doing to which I responded "Staying alive". They tell me to run through everything to the last room. So I do that, even though I don't think it's a good idea, only to find over a dozen undead, skeleton archers, mummies, skeleton warriors near the last room to which the door was CLOSED. They locked me out, and a few seconds later I died and they left me there.

So to your situation, do what you think is comfortable. If you know your damage output isn't going to be sufficient, don't do it. If you aren't sure if it will work, try it till you think it's not working. It might actually work. The first time I ran ETK on my wizard, I was asked if I had ooze puppet for the last fight. I was totally confused, but then they told me the living spells are treated as oozes. I never knew that so I was skeptical. I loaded the spell, and it worked. Was the easiest ETK run I'd ever had that wasn't on casual.

Don't be worried to try new things people suggest, but if you see it's not working, then stop doing it.

[TigrisMorte]

... the leader however decided that the best way to do the end battle was for me to cast blade barriers in the corridors....I told them i didn't have heighten and i really really wasn't comfortable about taking aggro...that's what they've seen person xxx do on their cleric...that clerics MUST BE ABLE TO DO X,Y,Z...going to cry now ...

You gave approp. details to leader. Leader instructed anyway and you followed instructions.

This makes you better than 80% of players I have PUGed with.

The leaders ability to lead is not in your control.

Don't cry, If you inform the leader of your abilities and they don't listen this is not your fault.
Just smile and nod and know you are a good team mate, whatever the outcome.