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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Only 3 PrEs? Please - it's like you're barely trying. Elf bard 8 / barb 6 / ftr 6 - Frenzied Arcane Kensai Warchanter Archer Berserker is where it's at!
    I'll get back on you
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    I'd probably not roll this as tempest but as arcane archer and also consider dropping warchanter in favor of virtuoso because you won't reach the top buff levels anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supp3nhuhn View Post
    I'd probably not roll this as tempest but as arcane archer and also consider dropping warchanter in favor of virtuoso because you won't reach the top buff levels anyways.
    True. Virtuoso is a nice Bard PrE. Its an economically strong and viable route, but I really like Warchanter PrE since it brings the magic number +4 hit /+6 Damage for the whole group so I'd be less piking and more spanking

    Plus I'll be going elf, just playing around with human or dwarf to have time to post a build reference.

    Though I am going for the AA route as you mentioned, after realizing the tempest I is kinda lame.. :|
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    Played around with the class combo a bit and it doesn't look that horrible really.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Level 20 Neutral Good Elf Female
    (6 Barbarian \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 248
    Spell Points: 324 
    BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    21
    Dexterity            16                    18
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               7                     8
    Bluff                 2                     2
    Concentration         6                    25
    Diplomacy             2                     2
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                2                     2
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  3                     4
    Intimidate            2                     2
    Jump                  6                    25
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         3                     4
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               6                    25
    Repair               -1                    -1
    Search               -1                     1
    Spot                 -1                     1
    Swim                  3                     5
    Tumble                4                     5
    Use Magic Device      6                    25
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 16 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
    Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
    Can manyshot with slaying arrows and switch to dual scimitars when that is in cooldown.
    A tad on the squishier side but still nothing too low, especially while raging.
    Warchanter buffs and almost 7 minutes of rage, drop wand mastery 2 and you can scracth on the 9 minutes.
    Doesn't look that bad at all imo.
    Last edited by supp3nhuhn; 09-18-2010 at 05:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by supp3nhuhn View Post
    Played around with the class combo a bit and it doesn't look that horrible really.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
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    Level 20 Neutral Good Elf Female
    (6 Barbarian \ 6 Ranger \ 8 Bard) 
    Hit Points: 248
    Spell Points: 324 
    BAB: 18\18\23\28\28
    Fortitude: 15
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 9
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    21
    Dexterity            16                    18
    Constitution         14                    16
    Intelligence          8                     8
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma             14                    14
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               7                     8
    Bluff                 2                     2
    Concentration         6                    25
    Diplomacy             2                     2
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle                2                     2
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  3                     4
    Intimidate            2                     2
    Jump                  6                    25
    Listen               -1                     1
    Move Silently         3                     4
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform               6                    25
    Repair               -1                    -1
    Search               -1                     1
    Spot                 -1                     1
    Swim                  3                     5
    Tumble                4                     5
    Use Magic Device      6                    25
    
    Level 1 (Bard)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    
    
    Level 4 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
    
    
    Level 7 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Ranger)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    
    Level 14 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
    
    
    Level 16 (Ranger)
    
    
    Level 17 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 19 (Bard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Bard)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
    Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
    Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
    Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I
    Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
    Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
    Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
    Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
    Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
    Can manyshot with slaying arrows and switch to dual scimitars when that is in cooldown.
    A tad on the squishier side but still nothing too low, especially while raging.
    Warchanter buffs and almost 7 minutes of rage.
    Doesn't look that bad at all imo.
    wow

    now time to put a lil' touch of gimpiness and i'm gonna post my final build

    THANK YOU XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltheaSteelrain View Post
    The gimp in me giggles in delight of rolling one
    As a side note: The commnity of the trading card game Magic: The Gathering loosely classifies three archetypes of players: The Timmy, The Johnny, and The Spike.
    Spike is the guy who likes to play the most streamlined and effective way; a DDO equivalent might be a guy who always find a particular character build which does just a tad more dps than the last flavor of the month buid.
    Timmy is the guy who is impressed by huge numbers and effects. Keep it simple, but make it supersize. Sorcs and Barbs, as well as THF Pallys should appeal to the DDO equivalent of a Timmy.
    A Johnny is the guy who likes to find and play interesting synergies between different cards. Not the most elegant ones, but those which are neat. People who play 4 PrE toons give some room to their inner Johnny, I guess.

    TL; DR: You Sir, are a Johnny, not a gimp. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by AltheaSteelrain View Post
    wow

    now time to put a lil' touch of gimpiness and i'm gonna post my final build

    THANK YOU XD
    You could drop both wand masteries and get favored damage 1 and 2 instead.

    That would give you 2 more damage per hit bringing the total adders to:

    6 favored
    1 rage spell
    3 rage
    3 rams might
    1 frenzy
    6 song
    7 power attack
    2 weapon enhancement
    -------
    29 extra damage plus base strength bonus

    As comparison a max strength kensai gets 19.5 damage bonus which already includes his higher starting strength, so against favored enemies you should end up pretty much on par with one.
    Last edited by supp3nhuhn; 09-18-2010 at 06:42 PM.

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