Stunning Fist Gone

[cmadding]

Now that Stunning Fist is gone what are you swapping out, or was it even worth taking? I am new to the monk world and saw that a lot of builds use this feat.

[nettystreeter]

its not gone you just have to swap it with a feat that is the same lvl requirement think it has to be chosen before you get past lvl 3

[SINIBYTE]

Stunning Fist is gone? what?

[Xeraphim]

It is only worthwhile if you can maintain a WIS over 30 on a Monk 20.

For Multiclassed Monks, it's a waste.

Toughness.

[rimble]

It is only worthwhile if you can maintain a WIS over 30 on a Monk 20.

That's...I don't...HI,...no...uhm...

Let's say, my experiences don't support your conclusion.

[Vissarion]

It is only worthwhile if you can maintain a WIS over 30 on a Monk 20.

For Multiclassed Monks, it's a waste.

Toughness.

This is most certainly not true. Since the Stunning fix in update 5, SF is viable even without committing much at all into Wisdom. My 17 WF Monk with a 12 starting WIS and a 20 currently has a DC of 35 with Stunning +10 HW, and will have a 38 once he gets to 20 and has a +2 tome to eat.

A 38 DC lands pretty well even in endgame content, and with the nerf to epic trash saves, I've also heard that it works reasonably well in Epic content.

[Lucian_Navarro]

My 20th Level Dwarven Monk has a 42 DC (Difficulty Check) Stunning Fist using +10 Wraps, 30 Wisdom, with +2 Dwarven Tactics.

It lands about 90% to 95% of the time... So I dont see a problem with this feat.

[Impaqt]

Now that Stunning Fist is gone what are you swapping out, or was it even worth taking? I am new to the monk world and saw that a lot of builds use this feat.

As other have pointed out, its not gone.

It is only worthwhile if you can maintain a WIS over 30 on a Monk 20.

For Multiclassed Monks, it's a waste.

Toughness.

Not true at all.. I use both Stunning Blow and Stuning fist on my 12/6/2 build even

10 +6(1/2Monk Levels) + 8 WIS +10 Of Stunning +1 Fighter Tactics =35 DC
Not 100% but it Doublestrikes a lot for 2 tries pls I have a 35+ Stunning blow to back it up.

Its definitely worth taking instead of a second Toughness feat.

[Mobeius]

What? Stunning Fist gone? How?

As others have said, you dont have to have a 30+ Wis to have it work. My Wis sits at a 26 and with +10 Stunners I stun all the time and pretty reliably.

[Dandonk]

Not gone. Works fine. Move along.

[NeutronStar]

Now that Stunning Fist is gone...

Link please.

[elujin]

i am using stunning blow anywas ^^

[Purgatory]

I still seem to have it on my monk...... Did you drag it off your hot bar? If so check your char. sheet look under feats and re-aply it to your hot bar.

[cmadding]

I rolled up a monk last night and is was not there. Can I only get it from Fred?

[Mobeius]

I rolled up a monk last night and is was not there. Can I only get it from Fred?

I *think* you have to use one of your monk feats to obtain it.

[Purgatory]

I rolled up a monk last night and is was not there. Can I only get it from Fred?

It's a monk feat only takeable at monk lvl's 1,2 and 6.

yes you can use fred to change out a class feat taken at lvl 1,2 or 6 to pick it up.

[Gadget2775]

It's only selectable as a Monk bonus feat at levels 1, 2 and 6. Won't show up for your other feat slots...IE Lvl 1, 3 6, 9 (etc..) general feat.

[Mercureal]

You don't get it automatically, you have to choose it as one of the bonus feats a monk gets, which are only at specific levels.


Edited to add: Wow, I must be a slow typer.

[cmadding]

It's only selectable as a Monk bonus feat at levels 1, 2 and 6. Won't show up for your other feat slots...IE Lvl 1, 3 6, 9 (etc..) general feat.

Thanks for the input. I will look for it at 6. I rolled a veteran Monk lev 4 and did not see it at the other levels. I bet I passed over it at 1 and 2. Thanks again.

[Gadget2775]

Thanks for the input. I will look for it at 6. I rolled a veteran Monk lev 4 and did not see it at the other levels. I bet I passed over it at 1 and 2. Thanks again.

Glad to help.