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    Question Power Attack - Worth taking?

    Is it worth getting the Power Attack Feat on a Strength-based Dark Path Halfling Monk?
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    There are two feats EVERY melee character MUST have. Thougness and PA

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    You should not even ask that.

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    This is sarcastic post, right?

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    do you plan on hitting mobs?
    if the answer is yes, then take PA
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    I guess with the multiple attacks that a Monk gets with the Flurry of Blows, that +5 damage per hit really begins to add up, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    you do plan on hitting mobs?
    if the answer is yes, then take PA
    Fixed that for you in red

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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilButcher View Post
    Fixed that for you in red
    actually, you made it worse cause the "?" doesnt make any sense now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Visty View Post
    do you plan on hitting mobs?
    do you plan on -hurting- mobs?

    Heh, couldn't resist :-)

    Anyway, I'll add a small tip: power attack can be very useful against DR.
    Consider hitting something with DR 10.
    10 hits doing 11 damage will only hurt for 10 points (11-10)*10.
    5 hits doing 16 damage will hurt for 30 points (16-10)*5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlak View Post
    do you plan on -hurting- mobs?

    Heh, couldn't resist :-)

    Anyway, I'll add a small tip: power attack can be very useful against DR.
    Consider hitting something with DR 10.
    10 hits doing 11 damage will only hurt for 10 points (11-10)*10.
    5 hits doing 16 damage will hurt for 30 points (16-10)*5.
    And 1 million hits at 9 damage will be zero damage with zero KI generation. Thats the most important thing to use Power attack for (especially important on Dex based characters). If you have problems getting base damage on something, your DPS tanks significantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    Is it worth getting the Power Attack Feat on a Strength-based Dark Path Halfling Monk?
    Do you plan only using shurikens XD ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maha0201 View Post
    Do you plan only using shurikens XD ?
    For whatever reason, PA seems to work with thrown weapons.
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    If you hit things in melee, use Power Attack. No exceptions.

    The nerfing will continue until morale improves!

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    My dex/wis monk doesnt have PA. I went and took Combat Expertise instead.

    Since you cant have both active at the same time, and since both SHOULD be taken off to hit Epic better, I find it a waste of a feat.

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    Exclamation PA \= needed

    Quote Originally Posted by Odin's_Hugin View Post
    My dex/wis monk doesnt have PA. I went and took Combat Expertise instead.

    Since you cant have both active at the same time, and since both SHOULD be taken off to hit Epic better, I find it a waste of a feat.
    +1
    It is so refreshing to hear the voice of reason for a change.

    Is PA good? In many situations yes - but as with all stances it is (currently) exclusive and there maybe times that it needs to be deactivated (or it would be decreasing DPS! )

    As such, PA is a melee feat strongly worth considering, but there are sometimes better options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin's_Hugin View Post
    My dex/wis monk doesnt have PA. I went and took Combat Expertise instead.

    Since you cant have both active at the same time, and since both SHOULD be taken off to hit Epic better, I find it a waste of a feat.
    Is Combat Expertise the one that needs 13 Intelligence to take?

    The Halfling I made only has 8 Intelligence, so Combat Expertise isn't an option.

    If you were wondering, the Stats and Feats taken by Level 6 are as follows:

    15 Strength (Inc. +1 Strength from Character Level 4)
    18 Dex
    14 Con
    08 Int
    14 Wis
    08 Cha

    (1) Toughness
    (1) Power Attack
    (2) Two Weapon Fighting
    (3) Least Dragonmark of Healing
    (3) Path of Inevitable Dominion
    (6) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
    (6) Dodge

    At Level 8 I will increase my Strength to 16 and at Level 9 I plan on taking the Greater Dragonmark of Healing.
    I've not planned beyond that stage yet, other than expecting to continue with the Two Weapon Fighting Feats for 60% and 80% off-hand chance respectively while putting Level-Up stat points into Strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin's_Hugin View Post
    My dex/wis monk doesnt have PA. I went and took Combat Expertise instead.

    Since you cant have both active at the same time, and since both SHOULD be taken off to hit Epic better, I find it a waste of a feat.
    See, that is your problem. Nobody should ever play a DEX based monk.

    But, even those that do should have PA. Since you aren't doing any real damage anyway with your attacks you need all the help you can get.

    Seriously, even on a DEX/WIS monk shooting for massive AC and using CE on a routine basis you should have PA. You do not need to keep AC maxed out but you do need to boost damage. Chances are you are not pulling aggro in any case (except when soloing) so the AC is really wasted. Help the party out with more damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin's_Hugin View Post
    My dex/wis monk doesnt have PA. I went and took Combat Expertise instead.

    Since you cant have both active at the same time, and since both SHOULD be taken off to hit Epic better, I find it a waste of a feat.
    So lemme get this right, you find power attack to be a waste of a feat because you can't use it in epic, so you took Combat Expertise instead?

    Even if you have to turn them off occasionally +5 damage goes a lot further in epic quests than +5 AC, and if you are talking about non-epics then there is pretty much no reason power attack should ever be turned off, especially on a low AC str based character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antheal View Post
    Is it worth getting the Power Attack Feat on a Strength-based Dark Path Halfling Monk?
    by Grabthar's hammer... by the Sons of Warvan.. yes.

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    Good character choice btw. I love my Str based Dark Halfling Monk. So much I TRed it for extra fist damage And yes, it has Power Attack
    It's not important how many people I've killed, It's important how i get along with the people that are still alive.

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