Epic crafting: pls add seeker to yellow/blue slot

[Fafnir]

I'd like to have the ability to add +seeker to epic crafting.

It would appear suitable for either a blue slot or a yellow slot.

Current in game comparables
Bloodstone: +6
Epic bloodstone: +8
Mentau: +4

Suggested seeker range
Blue slot: +5 to +6
Yellow slot: +4

Blue slots are reasonably uncommon. Yellow is more common and has a greater variety of uses (e.g. +4 prot, +4 resist)

Many thanks

[Dark-Star]

/signed.

[Heronous]

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+1

[Krag]

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Protection 4 and +4 resist are common and usually come as an icing on a cake. I.e. one rune on DT armor, addition to a Min II weapon. +4-6 Seeker would replace whole items. Very expensive items that take whole slots and have no relevant additional effects.

[sirgog]

IMO it should be on red slots.

Generally, colorless slots boost stats, blue slots provide defensive abilities, yellow slots utility, and red slots offensive.

Of course, it would be less potent there than on yellow or blue slots.

One more request, however - add Superior Potency 6 to red slots.

[Fafnir]

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Protection 4 and +4 resist are common and usually come as an icing on a cake. I.e. one rune on DT armor, addition to a Min II weapon. +4-6 Seeker would replace whole items. Very expensive items that take whole slots and have no relevant additional effects.

Can already get byproduct seeker on things like the TOD belts

[Fafnir]

IMO it should be on red slots.

Generally, colorless slots boost stats, blue slots provide defensive abilities, yellow slots utility, and red slots offensive.

Of course, it would be less potent there than on yellow or blue slots.

One more request, however - add Superior Potency 6 to red slots.

Blue slots come on armor, primarily, and also trinkets, necklaces and helms via some green slots. Seeker comes on trinkets, armor, goggles, belts and weapons. Blue (or green) slots are uncommon enough that this becomes a beneficial option for those that don't want to use a bloodstone without become so common as to dilute the use.

[sirgog]

Blue slots come on armor, primarily, and also trinkets, necklaces and helms via some green slots. Seeker comes on trinkets, armor, goggles, belts and weapons. Blue (or green) slots are uncommon enough that this becomes a beneficial option for those that don't want to use a bloodstone without become so common as to dilute the use.

Yeah, there's no doubt it would be stronger on blue or yellow than on red. I just expect the Devs, if they do it, will think 'Seeker 6 (or 4) is an offensive ability, let's make people decide whether they want +7 OR Seeker OR a DR-breaker effect on their weapon'.

Were +6 Seeker Blue, it would make Red Dragon Scale armor outclass the Epic Marilith Chain for pure damage output, IMO. (Red scale is currently ahead, but there's enough fire immune foes that Marilith Chain is a lot better on that they are currently about even, IMO).

If it was yellow, my melee FvS that switches between Bloodstone and Epic Dragon's Eye would be a happy robot indeed.

[Krag]

Can already get byproduct seeker on things like the TOD belts

Well, I guess there would be no harm in +2 Seeker on an epic item.

[phalaeo]

One more request, however - add Superior Potency 6 to red slots.

As much as I would love to see that for my own selfish enjoyment, it seems kinda broken dontcha think?

[sirgog]

As much as I would love to see that for my own selfish enjoyment, it seems kinda broken dontcha think?

The Warchanter necklace has Sup Pot 6 as one of two good and one weak effects (good being Sup Pot 6 and the set bonus, weak being Wizardry 6).

IMO it's no stronger to have Sup Pot 6 in a precious and rare red slot than it is to have Greater False Life in a less precious, less rare yellow slot.


Back off the sidetrack - if Seeker 4 was a yellow slot option, which of these would apply in your mind?

1) Whenever I see a yellow slot, I automatically think "Seeker 4 unless I already have it elsewhere", as it outclasses the other options
2) Whenever I see a yellow slot, I never consider Seeker 4, it's just too weak (unless I already have all the yellow abilities covered, then I might bother with it)
3) When I see a yellow slot, I'm torn between Seeker 4 and other options.

IMO it's balanced if 3 is the case - I think most melee toons would say 1, however.

[Emili]

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1) Whenever I see a yellow slot, I automatically think "Seeker 4 unless I already have it elsewhere", as it outclasses the other options
2) Whenever I see a yellow slot, I never consider Seeker 4, it's just too weak (unless I already have all the yellow abilities covered, then I might bother with it)
3) When I see a yellow slot, I'm torn between Seeker 4 and other options.

IMO it's balanced if 3 is the case - I think most melee toons would say 1, however.

I tend to agree... and in same light it would most definately devalue epic bloodstone and demon chain... seriously why would anyone chase those two items in epic proportion when the epic'd version could be compromised some by a simple slot on another item?

[Krag]

The Warchanter necklace has Sup Pot 6 as one of two good and one weak effects (good being Sup Pot 6 and the set bonus, weak being Wizardry 6).

IMO it's no stronger to have Sup Pot 6 in a precious and rare red slot than it is to have Greater False Life in a less precious, less rare yellow slot.


Back off the sidetrack - if Seeker 4 was a yellow slot option, which of these would apply in your mind?

1) Whenever I see a yellow slot, I automatically think "Seeker 4 unless I already have it elsewhere", as it outclasses the other options
2) Whenever I see a yellow slot, I never consider Seeker 4, it's just too weak (unless I already have all the yellow abilities covered, then I might bother with it)
3) When I see a yellow slot, I'm torn between Seeker 4 and other options.

IMO it's balanced if 3 is the case - I think most melee toons would say 1, however.

4) Whenever I see a yellow slot, I automatically remove all other equipped non-epic Seeker items(Colethenis's Belt +2, Mentau Goggles +4, Arrowhead +4, Bloodstone +6, Marilith Chain +6) and seriously consider swapping epic Seekers (Bloodstone +8, Marilith Chain +10) for something better.

[Fafnir]

I have several regular bloodstones. I'm specifically keen to be able to put something else in that slot. I also have the seeker belt, arrowhead and other items with seeker.

It's not that I want to have a, say, blue slot seeker supercede the epic bloodstone, just that having a, say, blue slot seeker being close enough means that I have other options for the trinket slot than the bloodstone. For a crit relevant toon (anyone with x3 or better), there is a big difference between seeker 6-10 on the bloodstone/epic bloodstone/marilith and seeker 4 through a slot.

Taking a similar example, having +4 resistance and +4 protect on a common yellow slot means I don't need to go looking for those items specifically as I can 'make do' with close enough via the epic slots. Yes, this has the effect of devaluing a +5 resist or +5 prot item, the +6 prot epic ring or the +5 resist/prot kundarak warding bracers, but it also gives me more flexibility once you've ground out an epic item plus all the tokens you need.

Remember you can use Bloodstone at low level and buy it directly off the AH. For many people, that amount of plat is trivial.

I think seeker would be a useful addition to crafting. Blue or red would have significant constraints on it given the rarity of those slots. Yellow is more common and would be a weaker effect.

[eulogy098]

yes pls ty

[janave]

I think a revision should take place for all the current epic slotting. Ie: stacking spell focus for yellow slots, maybe a sup false life (hp is the rage now). Yellow slotting for the 30 token is currently quite disappointing. The colorless exceptional +1 should stack as well, the ones who really need to boost stats already made GS by the time they touch epic dungeons.

Yellows: I would suggest that all the: prot, resist, wizardry, false life stats get the current+1 version.
All the utility, underwater action, featherfall, immunities reduced to 20 token. (Still too much imho, but 30 is straight unsane)

Blues: I would say, natural armor current+1, spell failure chance -20%

[Praya20]

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Well, I guess there would be no harm in +2 Seeker on an epic item.

+2 Exceptional Seeker IMO

why waste a slot on +6 seeker when you can craft it?

[SirValentine]

Seeker comes on trinkets, armor, goggles, belts and weapons.

Seeker comes on a variety of NAMED items. But does it come on any randomly generated loot other than weapons? If not, then keeping it on Red slots only makes sense to me. The value of various named items is being able to get effects in unusual slots.

[voodoogroves]

On a red slot, I could see seeker 6. On a blue, maybe Exceptional Seeker 2.

... but not both.

Yes I think yellow needs some love as the items there are largely easily eclipsed, but not seeker.

[Kevorkian]

As a Monk main player, I beg you give me something that can fill a yellow slot that is not absolutely worthless to a monk. Some variant of seeker, striding, just something. Or stop putting yellow slots on items that are very monk focused like Jidz and Brawling Gloves etc.