Tempest 3 or Tempest2/kensei

[tigarshadowen]

Decision, this is a hard decision i need help making any advice would be appreciated on the benefits of both. Currently lvl 12rng/1ftr/1rog. wondering if i should go 18/1/1 or something else. thanx in advance

[redraider]

18 rgr/ 1 rog/ 1 MONK

LR+1 is your friend

[t0r012]

18 Monk / 1 Monk / 1 MONK

TR is your friend

fixed that for you

[tigarshadowen]

thanks my only question is can i take monk if im true neutral or do i need to be lawful to take monk as a class

[MartinusWyllt]

thanks my only question is can i take monk if im true neutral or do i need to be lawful to take monk as a class

Have to be lawful so you would have to either reroll or buy an alignment change from the DDO store

[Thargnar]

thanks my only question is can i take monk if im true neutral or do i need to be lawful to take monk as a class

Lawful to be monk. Personally I like tempest II kensai I with 1 or 2 rogue splash for full rogue skills (at least search and disable) and max UMD. It makes for a very versatile survivable self sufficient toon that cranks out solid DPS. The fighter levels give you some extra st, hp, and feats with the option of weapon spec and the passive hit and damage from kensai I as well as some better combat DCs if you do any tripping or stunning. I personally don't find tempest III, 4th level ranger spells (freedom, cure serious), and hide in plain sight worth giving up the benefits of 6 ftr levels and kensai I for. It's all a matter of taste of course, but that's my opinion.

[tigarshadowen]

ok if i were to go tempest 2/kensei this is an idea of what my build would look like, any suggestions to make it better would be appreciated.

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Humanrrf 12rng/6fgt/2rog
Level 20 True Neutral Human Male
(6 Fighter \ 2 Rogue \ 12 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 290
Spell Points: 156 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 17
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    22
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence         12                    12
Wisdom               12                    12
Charisma             10                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    15
Bluff                 0                     1
Concentration         4                     5
Diplomacy             0                     1
Disable Device        5                    24
Haggle                4                     4
Heal                  1                     1
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            0                     1
Jump                  6                    10
Listen                1                     1
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             6                    14
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                5                    24
Spot                  5                    17
Swim                  2                     6
Tumble                6                     8
Use Magic Device      4                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Human Bonus) Mobility
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 4 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 8 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I


Level 10 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 13 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III


Level 14 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion III


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Human Versatility III


Level 16 (Fighter)
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 17 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II


Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Kensei Khopesh Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

*ps this build is at lvl 14 2 ranks from 15

[voodoogroves]

You only need enough dex for dodge since you get the weapon chain for free ... Also too much charisma ...my opinion at least

[unbongwah]

Since this is an existing char, I don't know if you plan to LR to "fix" it, but: I would dump-stat CHA & WIS for more STR & CON; something like 16 / 14 / 15 / 12 / 8 / 8. Use human enh for +1 CON and racial Toughness III enh. Don't bother w/armor mastery; drop it and ranger DEX III and you ought to be able to get +2 STR from ftr STR III & human STR +1. I prefer to have Toughness sooner; I would take it at lvl 1 or 3 and your first ftr lvl sooner to get that extra feat to make up for it.

[tigarshadowen]

The reason i have charisma at 10 is so with a +6 cloak at lvl 14 i have a umd of 20 which lets me bypass most restrictions on equip. wisdom is at twelve because at the time it felt like it would be useful. seeing as i have little money to spend on the game it would be a couple of months before i have the tp to buy a heart to lr but i will keep your suggestions in mind for when i can afford it or get everything set for when i TR this character to make it a 36pt build.

[tigarshadowen]

Ok ive looked into some of your suggestions, cant get ftr str 3 as you need have 8 lvls of ftr to get that and ill only have 6 as for dex 3 its important for the high reflex save for evasion which saves my ass when trapmonkeying and the control panal is on the other side of the trap. but the con advice is solid so im working on moving some enhancements around to fit in greater adapt con and racial toughness 3 into there, prolly gonna have to pick up a +1 tome to even it out since i dont like odd number stats. as for redoing my ability scores those will have to wait till i can afford a heart of wood but will look into LRing and changing that up. As for feats ill be making a trip to fred to change that up and move toughness to lvl 1 and shift everything else down a lil bit. If anyone can come up with some more advice it would be greatly appreciated.