Marrying meta-magics and Spells.

[binnsr]

In Pen and Paper (and yes, I know this isn't the same beast anymore), using metamagics involves memorizing a spell at X levels higher than the original.

My suggestion is to bring this functionality to DDO by giving casters the equivalent of our already-existing weapon-sets. On the Spells tab of your character sheet, you could drag (for example) Web to the first spell-set slot. Then drag Heighten to it. This way, you could cast heightened webs without them being extended or quickened if you've got the global toggle on.




p.s. There will be a post-nuptials reception at the Golden Wing Inn in House Phiarlan following the event. Sorry, but due to Elven restrictions, there will not be an open bar.

[Aspenor]

This one is long overdue. I know I've asked for it before.

[Shyver]

This is a great idea. I've thought since launch that there should be a way to link spells to metamagics without toggling them on and off for all spells. Using the weapon sets is a great way to go about it.

*you must spread some rep around, blah blah blah.

[binnsr]

This one is long overdue. I know I've asked for it before.

Yup. You've been the longest running proponent of this that I know of

I just didn't recall ever reading about a way that it might be accomplished.

[Coldin]

/signed

It's been suggested before, but I'd still love to see something like this implemented.

[donfilibuster]

/signed-again

Either of the usual suggested methods is good, be it using the weapons set and dragging to hotbar, doing it in the hotbar directly or let you drag the metamagic spell icon straight from the spell list (with a dropdown just like some spells have).

(edit)
The point is to have a separate icon to click instead of toggling multiple hotkeys while in combat, thus making casters less click dependant, be it good or bad.

[Ybbald]

So let me make sure I understand this: You can apply metamagics to certain spells only? You lost me when you talked about "heightening" web (a lvl 2 spell) "up" to a lvl 1 spell.

This would be really sweet. I hate it when I leave extend on after tossing out rage/haste and then I waste SP on my first couple firewalls before I realize it's still on >_>

[Aashrym]

signed

[binnsr]

So let me make sure I understand this: You can apply metamagics to certain spells only? You lost me when you talked about "heightening" web (a lvl 2 spell) "up" to a lvl 1 spell.

This would be really sweet. I hate it when I leave extend on after tossing out rage/haste and then I waste SP on my first couple firewalls before I realize it's still on >_>

In pen and paper, MetaMagics work something like that.
Empower costs +2 spell levels.
Maximize is +3 spell level

So, a maximized and empowered FireBall would cost a PnP wizard an 8th level spell slot when he's memorizing spells in the morning.

The only one that doesn't have a set level increase is Heighten. In DDO, that's already shown by the spell increasing in spell points to the cost of the casters highest casting level. So, a heightened web, occupying its own spell-set slot (which would then be dragged to your hotbar just like other spells) would still cost that same amount of SP, but wouldn't affect other spells that would otherwise be affected by Heighten which you might not want heightened right then.

In DDO, MetaMagics are represented by increased spellpoint costs, so creating spell-sets would keep that intact while re-using the weapon set technology already in game.

[PopeJual]

I'd very much like to Extend all of my buffs on a low level caster while not Extending my Soundburst.

I'd very much like to Extend my Mass Hold Monster at high level but Extending my buffs is kind of pointless... except for Haste and Displacement.


Being able to turn Metamagic on and off on a per-spell basis would be a lovely addition to DDO.

[Spoonwelder]

/signed
+1
Want it yesterday.

Would be nice to add spell combos as well - ie energy drain followed by heightened destruction

[~Jules921]

*you must spread some rep around, blah blah blah.

Don't worry Shyv, I got him for ya.

Jules

[markhoge]

/signed
+1

This would be GREAT!