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    hello all thanks for taking the time to read this. i want to make a rogue/ranger toon can anyone help me with a build? if possible i need it to be 28 point build and not gear oriented no tomes just your basic kick azz build. i do have acess to tomes and gear etc. but i want it to be good without all that so when that comes into play its amazing. i want it to be able to do insane dps and be able to open locks spot traps etc if its not possible then say it all help is apperciated thank you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofzion View Post
    hello all thanks for taking the time to read this. i want to make a rogue/ranger toon can anyone help me with a build? if possible i need it to be 28 point build and not gear oriented no tomes just your basic kick azz build. i do have acess to tomes and gear etc. but i want it to be good without all that so when that comes into play its amazing. i want it to be able to do insane dps and be able to open locks spot traps etc if its not possible then say it all help is apperciated thank you all
    Feel free and take a look through here and see if anything appeals to you...

    http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=117232

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    Being an amazing character and doing insane DPS, unfortunately, is more about gear and playing ability than build. That said, there are lots of good ideas in the link above, and rogue levels can certainly help you do very good damage in combat.

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    Read Krythen in my sig.
    13 rogue / 6 ranger / 1 monk

    ...though pure rogue is very appealing: more sneak attack damage, more assassinates, and insta-kill at level 18
    Check out my: My Index of Builds / My Capped Characters on Khyber: Krythan II / Velkro Sorcerer / Krythen 13/6/1 Rogue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    13 rogue / 6 ranger / 1 monk
    This requires Monk which is for Premium/VIP players so I didn't touch this since he wants something without Tomes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    ...though pure rogue is just totally freaking awesomeness and is the best every
    Fixed for you

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    If you don't have monk
    • Replace monk with fighter
    • Replace monk with Barbarian and drop khopesh
    • Go pure rogue (this is what I recommend)
    Check out my: My Index of Builds / My Capped Characters on Khyber: Krythan II / Velkro Sorcerer / Krythen 13/6/1 Rogue
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    Well, I won't claim this does "insane" DPS, but it does meet the rest of your reqs, I think.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
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    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
    (1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 302
    Spell Points: 205 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    22
    Dexterity            14                    16
    Constitution         15                    16
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               6                     7
    Bluff                -1                    -1
    Concentration         2                     3
    Diplomacy            -1                    -1
    Disable Device        5                    24
    Haggle                3                     3
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  2                     3
    Intimidate           -1                    -1
    Jump                  7                    10
    Listen                3                     3
    Move Silently         2                     3
    Open Lock             6                    24
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                5                    24
    Spot                  3                    22
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                6                     7
    Use Magic Device      3                    22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Listen (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 13 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    
    
    Level 16 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
    
    
    Level 18 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 19 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistence Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Item Defense I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion III
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Well, I won't claim this does "insane" DPS, but it does meet the rest of your reqs, I think.
    If you're going to splash Rogue, take a minimum of 2 levels (for Evasion). I know as a Ranger you get Evasion at level 9, but Evasion is just plain awesome

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    If you do rogue 2 / rgr 18, you give up a feat, 14 HPs, and med & hvy armor proficiencies (only helpful at low lvls, but still helpful IMHO). Usually not worth it just to get Evasion sooner, but it is an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Well, I won't claim this does "insane" DPS, but it does meet the rest of your reqs, I think.

    Code:
    Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.5.1
    DDO Character Planner Home Page
    
    Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
    (1 Fighter \ 1 Rogue \ 18 Ranger) 
    Hit Points: 302
    Spell Points: 205 
    BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
    Fortitude: 16
    Reflex: 16
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             16                    22
    Dexterity            14                    16
    Constitution         15                    16
    Intelligence         12                    12
    Wisdom                8                     8
    Charisma              8                     8
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               6                     7
    Bluff                -1                    -1
    Concentration         2                     3
    Diplomacy            -1                    -1
    Disable Device        5                    24
    Haggle                3                     3
    Heal                 -1                    -1
    Hide                  2                     3
    Intimidate           -1                    -1
    Jump                  7                    10
    Listen                3                     3
    Move Silently         2                     3
    Open Lock             6                    24
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                     1
    Search                5                    24
    Spot                  3                    22
    Swim                  3                     6
    Tumble                6                     7
    Use Magic Device      3                    22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Skill: Balance (+4)
    Skill: Disable Device (+4)
    Skill: Haggle (+4)
    Skill: Jump (+4)
    Skill: Listen (+4)
    Skill: Open Lock (+4)
    Skill: Search (+4)
    Skill: Spot (+4)
    Skill: Tumble (+4)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 2 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
    
    
    Level 3 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
    
    
    Level 5 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+2)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 6 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+3)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
    
    
    Level 7 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
    
    
    Level 8 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 9 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 11 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 12 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 13 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 14 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 15 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
    
    
    Level 16 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 17 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental
    
    
    Level 18 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
    
    
    Level 19 (Ranger)
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    
    
    Level 20 (Ranger)
    Ability Raise: STR
    Skill: Disable Device (+1)
    Skill: Open Lock (+1)
    Skill: Search (+1)
    Skill: Spot (+1)
    Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
    Enhancement: Ranger Energy Resistence Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
    Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility I
    Enhancement: Human Versatility II
    Enhancement: Human Versatility III
    Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Item Defense I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
    Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest II
    Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion II
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion III
    Enhancement: Ranger Devotion IV
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
    This is exactly what you should be shooting for. I remember when I first started..I asked for the same thing and got the exact same response from Unbongwah. If I'm not mistaken, this is tihocan's Tempest build.
    This is the direction I went and never looked back. I can get almost every trap in the game so far and deal a lot of damage.
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