What do I need to pay you, Turbine, to lock toolbars?

[Spoonwelder]

Yes please do make them sticky.


Other probably harder changes to make that I would suggest....


Also - much bigger change but potentially make it like excel where you have a set area (personally set and sizable) to plug the bars in (ie. sticky areas) with a locking mechanism and then also allow them to float on the screen if desired. This would allow me to switch between computers and not have my bars get squished when I go lower res on my laptop.

Ie. cake in stomach and on plate....mmmmm cake.

another option would be to just have the bars resize properly when you change resolution. (ninja'd dammit)

[Rumbaar]

Correct. I am working on this and hope to have it in for Update 7. My assumption at this point is that shouldn't be too hard, but I've been surprised before.

And it is a legitimate bug, as it seems to happen only with items from the inventory, when logging in with toolbars already locked.

What is the prospect of getting greater changes so that toolbar layout is stored client side.

So if you are on multiple computers and using different resolutions you can have fixed layout for each resolution. Having the toolbars look okay on 1920X1080 and then going to a machine that has only 1366X768 and have the toolbars all messed up is a bit of a pain and really shouldn't be the case on a modern game.

[Codeshaper]

so, a temporary fix for this might be to unlock and relock your toolbars right after you log on to a new toon? I'm gonna try that. T

That is exactly the workaround, yes.

[Codeshaper]

What is the prospect of getting greater changes so that toolbar layout is stored client side.

So if you are on multiple computers and using different resolutions you can have fixed layout for each resolution. Having the toolbars look okay on 1920X1080 and then going to a machine that has only 1366X768 and have the toolbars all messed up is a bit of a pain and really shouldn't be the case on a modern game.

Now that's just crazy talk

I would love to do this, but it's not in the cards for U7. We'll get there eventually, though. No promises on time frame. I'd avoid holding your breath if I were you...

[Tyrande]

I have encountered this problem as well.

I usually run an external 30" LCD monitor that is 1920x1200 resolution for DDO.

I brought my i7 laptop on vacation and that resort happened to have a free high speed internet connection in every unit. However, the default builtin panel is only 1366x768 resolution. I had to unlock the bars and then move and reorganize them. Now that I am back from vacation, I had to move the bars again, back to the original formation.
Is there a developer's recommendation organization of these bars? For arcane magic users? For divine magic users? For dual wielding meleers? For arcane archers?

If there is a way to customize the tool bars and user themes into a stored profile, I don't care whether it is server side or client side; that will be great.

Also, I can bring CodeShaper physically out to lunch if that entice you more.

[kinar]

Correct. I am working on this and hope to have it in for Update 7. My assumption at this point is that shouldn't be too hard, but I've been surprised before.

And it is a legitimate bug, as it seems to happen only with items from the inventory, when logging in with toolbars already locked.

Any chance of getting an easier lock/unlock mechanism instead of having to go into the options box? Maybe something similar to how the inventory system works (a lock icon that can toggle the toolbars individually)?

edit - the reason here is that most of my toolbars are completely static and never change but I frequently move a couple around and change stuff on them during quests which prevents me from being able to use the lock feature (since it is all or nothing). This of course results in me, occasionally and accidentally, dragging stuff around...

[Codeshaper]

Any chance of getting an easier lock/unlock mechanism instead of having to go into the options box? Maybe something similar to how the inventory system works (a lock icon that can toggle the toolbars individually)?

edit - the reason here is that most of my toolbars are completely static and never change but I frequently move a couple around and change stuff on them during quests which prevents me from being able to use the lock feature (since it is all or nothing). This of course results in me, occasionally and accidentally, dragging stuff around...

Ctrl-= will lock and unlock the toolbars.

[NXPlasmid]

Any chance of getting an easier lock/unlock mechanism instead of having to go into the options box? Maybe something similar to how the inventory system works (a lock icon that can toggle the toolbars individually)?

edit - the reason here is that most of my toolbars are completely static and never change but I frequently move a couple around and change stuff on them during quests which prevents me from being able to use the lock feature (since it is all or nothing). This of course results in me, occasionally and accidentally, dragging stuff around...

"Control =" toggles the toolbar lock on and off.

edit* oops!

[zorander6]

Any chance of getting an easier lock/unlock mechanism instead of having to go into the options box? Maybe something similar to how the inventory system works (a lock icon that can toggle the toolbars individually)?

edit - the reason here is that most of my toolbars are completely static and never change but I frequently move a couple around and change stuff on them during quests which prevents me from being able to use the lock feature (since it is all or nothing). This of course results in me, occasionally and accidentally, dragging stuff around...

CTRL + =

Will "lock" the toolbars unless you've changed that keymapping.

[Zadkiele]

Now that's just crazy talk

Well, if we're on the subject of toolbars and crazy talk, here's another for the wish-list: UI Scaling.

Pretty please. With bacon on top!

Zad

[slimkj]

Whilst there's some answering going on about toolbars, might I ask whether it's ever likely we'll get to save a default layout for new characters? I'm an altoholic and so very bored of setting up 16-17 hot bars plus other UI elements every time I idly roll a new one.

[Tholar]

Now that's just crazy talk

I think I have a new line to add to my signature.

[Autolycus]

Correct. I am working on this and hope to have it in for Update 7. My assumption at this point is that shouldn't be too hard, but I've been surprised before.

And it is a legitimate bug, as it seems to happen only with items from the inventory, when logging in with toolbars already locked.

I just wanted to clarify, are you saying you're also working on locking the toolbars themselves from being dragged around on the screen in addition to the toolbar items themselves?

Since you brought it up...for the millionth time...I'd like to see the hotbars stick together when you drag them near each other. I'm tired of trying to space them evenly and get them all lined up. This is a pretty common feature in software programs. It would be nice to have it in the game.

/Signed. This would be very nice.

Any chance you can fix how toolbars move around when going back and forth between full screen and windowed mode?

Yes, Please! This is so annoying.

[sephiroth1084]

Name your price. Seriously.

What would I have to pay you to make a locked toolbar really, really, really stay locked. I'm talking "won't move even if I grab it and move it" locked. I'm talking "Hannibal Lecter not even gonna let you eat because you'll find a way to escape" locked. Locked!

v. locked, lock·ing, locks
v.tr.
1.
a. To fasten the lock of: close and lock a drawer.
b. To shut or make secure with or as if with locks: locked the house.
2. To confine or exclude by or as if by means of a lock: locked the dog in for the night; locked the criminal up in a cell.
3. To fix in place so that movement or escape is impossible; hold fast: The ship was locked in the ice through the winter. She felt that she had become locked into a binding agreement.

LOCKED!





oops...sorry about that last one. Not sure how it got in here.

Anyway...LOCKED!

What will it take? 2 hours of a developer's time? I'm good with that. Let's say your coding guys make $40/hr with 40% EBE. Assume they're too busy to do this task on straight time so I'll pay OT. That's $56/hr plus $20 per hour OT for a total of $152 (hey, I'm not paying benefits on OT hours...I'll only go so far). I'm good with that. To whom should I write the check? QC? Not needed because he couldn't make it worse than it is now considering my bars fly all over the screen even though they are "locked." Am I off in my estimate? Fine, tell me what it will cost and let me pay it.

Please, for the love of all that is sacred, let us lock our toolbars!

Drac, I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Could you be a little clearer?

[Cetus]

Drac, I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Could you be a little clearer?

haha!

[MrWizard]

codeshaper, you are earning super gold stars.

this has been around since I first played in 2006.

May I suggest just unlocking and locking upon log in..automatically?

much the same way the game currently unclothes you then re-equips you upon final completion of log in?

easy way around it?

I have had to unlock/lock on log in for every character for 4 years...finally....oh my god.

[Solmage]

Drac, I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Could you be a little clearer?

I think he wanted toolbars with a metallic look, and yet with some nice curves too?

[Dragavon]

Correct. I am working on this and hope to have it in for Update 7. My assumption at this point is that shouldn't be too hard, but I've been surprised before.

And it is a legitimate bug, as it seems to happen only with items from the inventory, when logging in with toolbars already locked.

Best DEV reply ever in the history of DDO

[Meetch1972]

Drac, I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here. Could you be a little clearer?

... I mean really? Please Draccus, we wanna help ya! We would if we could! I get the feeling that it's really important to you. I feel for you. You need to be heard. But what is it you actually want!?

Oh hang on... it's just after 8am GMT... we can keep updating you on what time it is, or would you really rather have that clock?



(It's been one of those days...)

[Meetch1972]

I think he wanted toolbars with a metallic look, and yet with some nice curves too?

No. I'm sure it was a clock. I'd love a /clock command - or maybe /time - actually only half joking here as I'd love to be able to find out what my system clock says it is without leaving the UI.

# /time
11:59:59pm
# <ping! Your coach turns into a pumpkin again. Bedtime!>