running around buffless makes your cleric cry

[MeliCat]

is it COMPLETELY unreasonable for me, a sucky cleric, to want my fellow party members *not* to run off immediately into battle without minimum buffs? (in this case resist fire, elec, dw)

i don't get that... i really don't get that.

and then *i* get blamed when i run out of sp and scrolls trying to keep up and heal people. (because i'm still running behind them trying to buff them too at the same time).

and before you have a go at me i'm usually pretty fast - i don't make people wait 10mins for me and am pretty fast on the buttons the second you get up from shrining. i even got complimented today on being a speedy cleric lol.

sheesh.

GET SOME BUFFS

and if your divine/arcane doesn't give you any resists and you know you need them, chug a resist 20 pot or put on a greater item. use that dw clickie. or GH clickie.

/rant off

i'm going to sleep. khyber drama do your stuff.

[sirgog]

Step 1: Soulstone in pocket
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

[bunitchu]

Step 1: Soulstone in pocket.

this.....i would make a halfling cleric and use my small stature to tell ppl their soulstones are too big and heavy for me to carry...*halfling cleric runs away scared of the raging player ghosts*

[PNellesen]

Step 1: Soulstone in pocket
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

This. While I may not give out buffs immediately in a quest unless I know what's coming or the group asks for them, if I have any SP left before I shrine, I'll ask everyone to gather for some of the more useful mass buffs. Anyone who takes off before I'm done is on their own. Don't blame me for being a bad cleric if you don't have the sense to take a resist fire and PfE and then get toasted by the 5 fire elementals that are around the next corner...

[DasLurch]

step 1: Soulstone In Pocket
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

This! :d

+1

[Rydin_Dirtay]

You are exactly right with the OP. But like a lot of threads here, the people that REALLY need to read this, are not reading it.

[SisAmethyst]

Step 1: Soulstone in pocket
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

There might be a problem with Step 1.

No not that there aren't any Soulstones, but there is probably not enough place in the backpack

[Nexx]

There might be a problem with Step 1.

No not that there aren't any Soulstones, but there is probably not enough place in the backpack

Well, you know you gotta start
tossin those Masterwork items away sooner
rather than later.

[Spoonwelder]

Even I as a cleric hate waiting for all the buffs....ie. Shroud Part 1 and everyone needs 40 odd buffs. I fire 5 mass buffs in 10 seconds and don't need anything else. Maybe wait 10 more seconds to wait for the bard buffs to finish due to song length then we should be good to go.....

[NaturalHazard]

I have the same problem on my bard, no one wants blur/good hope/ bardsongs/ haste? well if they can do without them fine, but i hate it when people sprint off as soon as they zone in and expect me to buff them. Esp for buffs that are mass. If you sprint off to me that means you dont need/want my buffs.

[Tholar]

Step 1: Soulstone in pocket
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit.

I knew I had seen this someplace before.



So are you saying that all clerics should be morphed into underpants gnomes?

[unscythe]

If they run off, say in chat or vioce to hold up. Players sometimes forget and rely on others for the buffs. SO either they know what they are doing or they forgot.-For the decent players anyways.

Others will just run off, and you will hear a ding. So buffs would have just prolonged their death a little longer.

Depends on if its a raid of a quest really.


If people want buffs they will be assigned or ask for them. Buffing yourself is number one on the priority list if your a designated babysitter.

[Lithic]

I admit I always run off within 3 seconds of zoning in, because I am use to being in a group that lacks both arcane and diving characters.

[MeliCat]

I admit I always run off within 3 seconds of zoning in, because I am use to being in a group that lacks both arcane and diving characters.

from this and your join date i'm going to assume you can buff yourself or will ask if you want a buff.

i do buff on the run. i do buff after rezz. i was talked to very firmly during bard training (running behind Quicktoe) NOT to say dumb things like 'gather' or 'group hug' or whatever and have learnt to buff at doorways/chests quickly and seamlessly.

but when players run off within 3 seconds of zoning in and *don't* buff, and then are *surprised* that i'm such a bad healer... um... yeah...

running around buffless makes your cleric cry.

and no sirgog... i really find it easier questing by level 17 in a full party... a full and *responsible* party.

[learst]

At least you're a cleric. How bout being a spellsinger bard in an undead dungeon? Where everyone dashes off? Makes you feel kinda useless for being in a party... I don't mind throwing targeted spell buffs on the run, but please a short group hug for songs, good hope, and haste isn't too much now is it?

[sainy_matthew]

At least you're a cleric. How bout being a spellsinger bard in an undead dungeon? Where everyone dashes off? Makes you feel kinda useless for being in a party... I don't mind throwing targeted spell buffs on the run, but please a short group hug for songs, good hope, and haste isn't too much now is it?

Yeah Bard versus undead sucks. If the party is not going to wait, i suggest piking. I hate to suggest piking but you're going to be of no use, i should know, i've played my share of bard in undead dungeons.

[blametroi]

At least you're a cleric. How bout being a spellsinger bard in an undead dungeon? Where everyone dashes off? Makes you feel kinda useless for being in a party... I don't mind throwing targeted spell buffs on the run, but please a short group hug for songs, good hope, and haste isn't too much now is it?

I did my first tempest spine with my bard this past weekend and the guy who invited me in (guildy) said "throw a song" and I had to say "to whom? there's no one here but me" ... I can throw a song on the run but not if they don't stay in range.

Very frustrating. I love having buffers in a party when I'm on a melee, but I don't know how dedicated buffers put up with most of us.

[phalaeo]

I am use to being in a group that lacks both arcane and diving characters.

Underwater combat strikes again!!!

[FlyingTurtle]

When I ask "who doesn't have resist X" (where X is a critical resist, have-it-or-fail for a given quest) it sometimes takes up to 30 seconds to a minute to get an answer. I dunno where it comes from, maybe some people need to time to overcome their tremendous embarrassment at coming into a quest without self-buffs. Or maybe they're searching through their backpack looking for the resist potion and came up empty. It's a mystery to me.

While all that is happening, I don't move, I don't chase after them trying to throw buffs onto a moving target, I just sit there until they either answer or run off. In the latter case, I'll assume they can take care of themselves, if they ding due to lack of resists, I apply sirgog's method.

[sirgog]

Oh and while on the subject of buffs. I've had people throw Fire Resist on me five times and say 'hey, my Fire Resist isn't working on you Numot'.

Ten seconds earlier, I'd typed something like "Numot does not require fire, elec or blur (have all on items)".

/palmface.