The best and worst reaver raid I have been on

[BuyerSeller]

Well, I was just on my 20th reaver raid and I got to pick the head of good fortune woot, so that was the good part!

The bad part was what happened in the raid when The Madstone Boots dropped. The person said they were up for roll, so I think 2-4 people rolled on them and a wizard won them. Then all hell broke loose from mostly one person. He started yelling blacklist and bla bla bla. It really made me sick to my stomach to hear someone talk that way about someone else winning a roll.

I looked at the boots myself and with my build I wouldn't want them, they seem like they could be fine for an arcane, I know someone said madstone does not let you cast spells, but what about when the caster runs out of sp anyway? I dunno, I got really upset when someone rolled on bracers of the glacier which in my mind were for arcane so *** how dare you roll on those lol. I got some good advice from a great member of these boards and I let it go. Anyway, isn't it up to the person who called the roll to make the rules? What gives anyone the right to question the highest roll? He even went far enough to say do not give them to him even though he won the roll. I could not believe what I was hearing honestly, but maybe it is just me? How do you guys feel about it? I talked to the guy after the raid and he was really upset that he was treated that way when he won, and I can't say I blame him personally.

please no pms asking for names or guild names. I will never give those out.

[Zinruko]

Next time you run a ToD and a +4 str tome drops and the caster rolls for it and gets it, you will be the one complaining on the forums.

[Srozbun]

Unless the wizard was a melee build I would also be pretty upset if he won a roll on madstone boots over melees. What does he need it for? Potency 7? Superior potency 6 exists, superior combustion/freeze/other elements exist up to 8 for clickies. Maybe he didn't know that using the clickie renders him unable to cast spells. Maybe he also didn't know that just wearing the boots and getting hit also has a chance to trigger the madstone rage, rendering him unable to cast spells. Even so, I would have hoped that someone in the party could have explained it to him and that he would reconsider that "hey maybe I don't really want these boots."

[Thriand]

Personally I wouldn't let a wizard win the roll if it dropped under my name, but if the person who looted it allowed it then its fair game.

I can definitely understand the frustration though of watching the boots go to an arcane.

[khaldan]

What with TR nowadays, I've stopped caring about what class gets the loot and only care if the person who got it was useful to the party or complete junk. Seems to work fairly well for me, don't know about anyone else though.

[Rumbaar]

With TR it makes it harder and harder to know these days, I just hope that anyone that rolls has a legit use for it and leave it at that.

[ArloOne]

I have to agree, With TR and completionist...If I put something up for roll, I give it to the winner...thats it..it was mine, I set the rules, they won it..stop complaining!

[sirgog]

Well, I was just on my 20th reaver raid and I got to pick the head of good fortune woot, so that was the good part!

The bad part was what happened in the raid when The Madstone Boots dropped. The person said they were up for roll, so I think 2-4 people rolled on them and a wizard won them. Then all hell broke loose from mostly one person. He started yelling blacklist and bla bla bla. It really made me sick to my stomach to hear someone talk that way about someone else winning a roll.

I looked at the boots myself and with my build I wouldn't want them, they seem like they could be fine for an arcane, I know someone said madstone does not let you cast spells, but what about when the caster runs out of sp anyway? I dunno, I got really upset when someone rolled on bracers of the glacier which in my mind were for arcane so *** how dare you roll on those lol. I got some good advice from a great member of these boards and I let it go. Anyway, isn't it up to the person who called the roll to make the rules? What gives anyone the right to question the highest roll? He even went far enough to say do not give them to him even though he won the roll. I could not believe what I was hearing honestly, but maybe it is just me? How do you guys feel about it? I talked to the guy after the raid and he was really upset that he was treated that way when he won, and I can't say I blame him personally.

please no pms asking for names or guild names. I will never give those out.

If they plan to TR into a melee, it's fine, IMO. Those boots are terrible for a caster and uber on a melee.

The Glacier bracers are different - they are solid on both an arcane (mainly for the spell penetration, the other benefits are easily obtained on better gear from Amrath), but they are also solid on a melee that gets hit a fair bit, for the Fireshield proc.

IMO they are at their absolute best on a tanking-oriented Barbarian. 11 cold damage per hit is equivalent to a Lightning Strike guard (against foes that have no cold resist), and a near-permanent 50% fire absorb on a class that can't get that any other way. Powerful effects indeed, both ones you can't get any other way.