Give us some clues on Bard Changes!

[EinarMal]

How about some info on the red headed step child of DDO!!!

[Visty]

what have clerics to do with bards?

[Coldin]

I'd love to hear how they're going to change/add to Spellsinger and Virtuoso. Seems like everyone these days is Warchanter.

[Tharlak]

How about some info on the red headed step child of DDO!!!

To prove your point, Eladrin posted a bunch of info in the Please Tell Me About Archmage thread.

Bard info... not so much.

[Eladrin]

Okay, okay. Since you're salivating for information, here's a Bard related enhancement release note:

"War Chanter now has a space in it, because the Prestige Class has one. Oops."

I'll share more in a few days.

[EinarMal]

Okay, okay. Since you're salivating for information, here's a Bard related enhancement release note:

"War Chanter now has a space in it, because the Prestige Class has one. Oops."

I'll share more in a few days.

Sweet! I knew there should have been a space in there.

[sirgog]

I'd love to hear how they're going to change/add to Spellsinger and Virtuoso. Seems like everyone these days is Warchanter.

Yep.

I've got my eye on Virtuoso, waiting to see what they will be able to do to debuff purple nameds.

After the upcoming Waves of Exhaustion nerf, I'd like to see Virts get a 10% attack speed debuff song that works on all foes including purples. (Duration based on the amount your Perform skill check beats a number that is specific to the monster).

[Folonius]

Okay, okay. Since you're salivating for information, here's a Bard related enhancement release note:

"War Chanter now has a space in it, because the Prestige Class has one. Oops."

I'll share more in a few days.

That's way overpowered!!!!!

[Coldin]

Okay, okay. Since you're salivating for information, here's a Bard related enhancement release note:

"War Chanter now has a space in it, because the Prestige Class has one. Oops."

I'll share more in a few days.

You're evil Eladrin. Evil!!

[Tharlak]

Okay, okay. Since you're salivating for information, here's a Bard related enhancement release note:

"War Chanter now has a space in it, because the Prestige Class has one. Oops."

I'll share more in a few days.

Woot!

I'm good to go now. Can't wait to try it on Lammania

Thanks Eladrin.

[Eladrin]

Due to the extremely amusing positive reaction to my mean little prank, I'll drop some more interesting information.

The three Tier II Bard PrE's have the following abilities (in no particular order):

Song of Heroism
Song of Capering
Song of Arcane Might
Inspire Recklessness
Spellsong Vigor
Sustaining Song

It's up to you guys to decipher which ones go with which PrE's, and you can speculate on what they do. (Until I drop more info. Gotta go fix more bugs now.)

[EinarMal]

Due to the extremely amusing positive reaction to my mean little prank, I'll drop some more interesting information.

The three Tier II Bard PrE's have the following abilities (in no particular order):

Song of Heroism
Song of Capering
Song of Arcane Might
Inspire Recklessness
Spellsong Vigor
Sustaining Song

It's up to you guys to decipher which ones go with which PrE's, and you can speculate on what they do. (Until I drop more info. Gotta go fix more bugs now.)

Inspire Recklessness (Su): A war chanter of 3rd level or higher with 12 or more ranks in any Perform skill can use their song or poetics to inspire an often dangerous, but very effective, ferocity in one of their allies within 60 feet (or in themselves). The effect lasts for as long as the ally hears the war chanter sing and for 5 rounds thereafter. The affected target is inspired to recklessness, gaining the ability to decrease their Armor Class by a number less than or equal to their base attack bonus and add the same number to their melee attack rolls as a morale bonus. On their turn, before making any attack rolls in a round, the affected character must choose to subtract a number from their Armor Class and add the same number to all melee attack rolls (this number may be 0). The penalty to Armor Class and the bonus on attack rolls apply until the character’s next turn.

Finally a reason to get AC on my Bard

Morale is the same bonus as regular inspire courage so will be interesting to see how this will stack.

[Coldin]

Due to the extremely amusing positive reaction to my mean little prank, I'll drop some more interesting information.

The three Tier II Bard PrE's have the following abilities (in no particular order):

Song of Heroism
Song of Capering
Song of Arcane Might
Inspire Recklessness
Spellsong Vigor
Sustaining Song

It's up to you guys to decipher which ones go with which PrE's, and you can speculate on what they do. (Until I drop more info. Gotta go fix more bugs now.)

Let's see...

Spell Singer - Song of Arcane Might, Spellsong Vigor (Those were pretty easy)
War Chanter - Inspire Recklessness, Song of Heroism?
Virtuoso - Song of Capering, Sustaining Song

As for what they do...Umm...*shrug* Capering might make mobs dance.

[Kza]

Due to the extremely amusing positive reaction to my mean little prank, I'll drop some more interesting information.

The three Tier II Bard PrE's have the following abilities (in no particular order):

Song of Heroism
Song of Capering
Song of Arcane Might
Inspire Recklessness
Spellsong Vigor
Sustaining Song

It's up to you guys to decipher which ones go with which PrE's, and you can speculate on what they do. (Until I drop more info. Gotta go fix more bugs now.)

Ok, i was preparing to start beg for more info but... Go fix more bugs :-)

(awesome with new/more songs btw!)

[ArtosKincaid]

Song of Heroism - Sounds like a heroism buff for obvious reasons. I hope it at least stacks with GH and Heroism if it's a similar bonus. This one goes to war chanter cause the others each have 2.

Song of Capering - Guessing this is an Otto's effect, target probably has to be fascinated, guessing virtuoso.

Song of Arcane Might - guessing spellsinger, don't know what it would do, maybe increase spell damage?

Inspire Recklessness - war chanter, I hope this works like PA/CE in that it drops the target's AC by 5 and adds +5 to hit, that would be amazing.

Spellsong Vigor - taking a wild guess and saying that's spellsinger, not sure what it does.

Sustaining Song (virtuoso) - this one stopped you from having to make stabilization checks, I hope it's a lot better than that...

[Tumarek]

More Songs is great. Hope you also added a few new tunes to go with them! A little more crunch would also be appreciated

[EinarMal]

I would like to see:

Warchanters get more personal DPS getting them closer to full BAB (not equal but closer).

Spellsingers - Give them access to mass hold monster

Virtuoso - More songs of various types

[moorewr]

I am all over Inspire Recklessness. I'm going to throw it on every AC build I see!

I hope you can apply these songs to yourself.. my Warspacechanter is of the fighting variety...

(Should it be Virtu Oso?)

[Invalid_50]

Bard using Song of Capering with his new Half Orc Barbarian buddy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH2nQHPs4aA

[Aexicas]

Song of Heroism- GH on all? Assuredly immunity to fear, at least. Non-dispellable GH is interesting though, despite not being too useful on Amrath if that's the case.

Song of Capering- Otto's Sphere of Dancing or Otto's Irrestable dance, costs 1 song to use.

Song of Arcane Might- +10% potency? Please? I'd be fine with just 10% =p

Inspire Recklessness- Gives Frenzy to all who hear it (which is really just +2 strength). Maybe rage, though.

Spellsong Vigor- Hm... Perhaps a Divine Vitality Sort of deal? That's a tough one. Maybe an HP buff, too, though.

Sustaining Song- My guess? Gives regeneration, somewhat akin to Radiant Servant, but likely not as powerful.

They at least sound cool! Tyvm Eladrin! Now how bout some sorc-age? =D