Ragequit the new thing?

[Gunga]

This topic just made me ragequit all over myself.

[Skirmish]

Is Ghallanda poisoned with stupid bugs, and everyone infected?

I swear, I just don't know.

This what comes from Ghallanda and Khyber having unprotected connections.

[grodon9999]

And where was the other healer through all this? Or were you solo healing it?

There was another "healer" in this group but I can safely say that I was still solo-healing this

[Bacab]

Generally, these are bad players. They were doing you a favor.

Not always true...

I tend to powergame and I want to get stuff done.

Lets say I join a PUG in GH. We decide to do "Trial By Fire". If 3 people in the group die OTW to the quest...yeah I will say in party chat "I do not think this is going to work for me."

Another Example...

OTW to a Hound or a VoD...if you die or fall to the bottom and die...and THEN want someone to come to YOU and raise you. We are going to have problems. I have 9-manned a few raids lately due to people being unable to FOLLOW a group to those quest. I am not talking about Meteor Swarm killing someone. I am not talking about a Beholder killing someone. I am talking about going right when everyone goes left. Or going Left when everyone goes right.

I generally do those raids on Hard (Hound) or Hard/Elite (VoD). IF you can not survive the trek to the quest entrance...I am doubting your survivability inside the quest.

I have had far too many accidental grievers in those quest. You know...the person who takes off before the Chew Toy tosses up the Solid Fog and aggros the dogs? You know the person who picks up the "Planar Shard" that the Mindflayers drop...oh right....

Or on Hard/Elite VoD they are the person with a +2 Flaming Great Axe of Deception wondering why their "Yellow Numbers of 15-20 are bad DPS". They are the person who lack curse pots.

Sometimes *GOOD* players /ragequit on *BAD* players to avoid screaming into voice chat. Samahdi brought up a great point didn't he?

Would you rather I...
A. Leave quietly and say "This is not working for me"
B. Leave loudly and say "You NOOBERS suck and I have better things to do like loots run ins Durk's Got a Secret"
C. Fake D/C
D. Point out every flaw in your play style/build/gear and embarrass you?

Which would you rather have?

[DrenglisEU]

This topic just made me ragequit all over myself.

Hmmm... ööö... could you please give more detailed information how one /ragequite oneself??? Interesting!

[LuckyLuke2]

Personally I'd rather drink a pot if its neccesary then make the entire party wait for me while I fill my mana. Luckily 3/4 of my mana was more than enough to heal the shroud when the level cap was 16.

If someone is horribly uncomfortable without a full blue bar I'll wait for them, but for the most part it should just be kill and go.

Possibly ... I can also tell stories about elite VON's when the level cap was 10 (good old times) or just elite TS'es where healers recalled to restore their sp's so that the raid would survive (better recall and take an xp hit then wipe was the main philosophy), but that's not really the issue here, is it ?

If I am the raid healer, the decision to use or not to use pods is mine. As said before rushing in whilst I specifically asked to use the pool will not make me ragequit (I don not go into a rage that easily), but you can expect an "OOM" line in the raid chat. To be honest I can not remember a Shroud where both healers ran out of sp's if they started the final event with a full bar, but wiping because someone was impatient and rushed in .. ow yes ... I remember a few of those.

[DrenglisEU]

Possibly ... I can also tell stories about elite VON's when the level cap was 10 (good old times) or just elite TS'es where healers recalled to restore their sp's so that the raid would survive (better recall and take an xp hit then wipe was the main philosophy), but that's not really the issue here, is it ?

If I am the raid healer, the decision to use or not to use pods is mine. As said before rushing in whilst I specifically asked to use the pool will not make me ragequit (I don not go into a rage that easily), but you can expect an "OOM" line in the raid chat. To be honest I can not remember a Shroud where both healers ran out of sp's if they started the final event with a full bar, but wiping because someone was impatient and rushed in .. ow yes ... I remember a few of those.

I remember those old day too mate, and they where fun! Same line with you, drinking a pot or not is the persons own, getting "waste" for that is unreasonable. Many wipes in the raids mentioned are also in my experience caused but rushing loonies! Teamwork is something people seem to have forgotten!

[tenalafel]

Possibly ... I can also tell stories about elite VON's when the level cap was 10 (good old times) or just elite TS'es where healers recalled to restore their sp's so that the raid would survive (better recall and take an xp hit then wipe was the main philosophy), but that's not really the issue here, is it ?

Ah, these good old days... the philosophy came from the XP debt when you died... Better recall for mana and get a hit in XP to save everybody from a huge xp debt from numerous death that can be avoided.

Actually, that XP debt would be something nice to have back... That would make the headless chickens that runs off unbuffed pause... As it had to be earned back.

[Valezra]

Granted, some people are getting easily flustered at superd*ckery such as casters WITH a specific buff ignoring a thousand requests typed and spoken (such as for feather fall at the start of a sub run which was cast one by one on everyone who needed it except the person in question, who was left unable to get to where the group was), by one person they've decided to ignore, even though it is right at the beginning of the quest and the ignored person hasn't had a chance to earn the silent treatment. But, easily flustered nonetheless.

This statement alone tells me the problem isn't with Ghallanda, but with you and the people you are choosing to run with. Since the first day the Subterrain was opened I have NEVER seen a group of people need FF cast on them by the caster.

Val

[Plaidpooka]

I must say that I have not seen much rage quitting in the pug groups I've been in. Bdog and I did have one weird ragequit, though. It was only Irestone. We were playing a couple sorcs, there was a newbie pally that was having trouble finding the quest, and the leader and a couple buddies of his. There was some trouble at the start. Mostly, in my opinion, because the leader and his buds blundered around and aggro'd multiple mobs. Suddenly the leader and his two buddy's ragequit. I got the feeling if it wasn't easy then they weren't going to play. Now Bdog and me like a challenge, and the pally showed up and turned out to be a good fighter, so we just finished without them. Two sorcs and a pally, ran most of the quest on our own, never wiped, and had a good time.
Sometimes you're better off without the ragequitters.

[nellie]

I like the name "RageQuit" New toon in the making thanks :P

[Dissindra]

excuse me, what's a ragequit technically spoken? is it just an expression for somebody leaving the group (in rage) or is it a command I can type (/ragequit) to leave a group without the usual recalling and leaving the wilderness area or what?

oh, and I would say, we have the human matter here: what some of us seek and appreciate as appropriate social behaviour, is nothing to worry about for others. this game can be played in so many different ways. the ones collecting fast xp communicate very differently from those enjoying roleplaying and landscape, for example. this CAN'T go without difficulties ... I tell myself, we are ALL fans of the same thing here (DDO or D&D), and thus that other ignorant or disrespectful player just can't be that evil and that I got to love him for beeing here

Amen ^^

The worst part of soloing - you can't ragequit if you do something stupid.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ... oh, wait, yes you can, when you have your hireling with u

[SINIBYTE]

ragequit

I ragequit after I open the chest... and my items not in there.

(/ragequit)

Do Want.

[Dissindra]

Do Want.

pardon me?

[jmonty]

The worst part of soloing - you can't ragequit if you do something stupid.

but you can rageboot your hireling

[cpito]

pardon me?

think he's saying he wants a /ragequit command/emote thingie

[Dissindra]

think he's saying he wants a /ragequit command/emote thingie

ah, ok

thanks ^^

[Nataichal]

I will place the recent prevalence of this phenomenon firmly at the doorstep of many other negative trends currently in game: F2P. I didn't even know what the term ragequit was until recently. In the old days, actions like that were rare. Then again, the sheer idiocy and attitude coming from F2P players that haven't really earned their stripes (or driver's licenses) is far more prevalent than what we once dealt with. Not saying every F2P is like that, but wow are there a lot of them.

Bring back XP penalties. Lets keep some of these guys in lower levels until they learn some teamwork, maturity, and competence.

[Samadhi]

...Then again, the sheer idiocy and attitude coming from F2P players that haven't really earned their stripes (or driver's licenses) is far more prevalent than what we once dealt with. ...Lets keep some of these guys in lower levels until they learn some teamwork, maturity, and competence.

Wow is this ironic.

[SINIBYTE]

think he's saying he wants a /ragequit command/emote thingie

hah! yep!

I could /ragequit and my character would stomp his feet, throw his weapon on the ground, and begin recalling.