Khyber Drama Thread #608

[MeliCat]

Errrrgh! It so annoys me when people say 'oh you're the cleric... you're meant to do x,y,z'.

Yes, please choose not to party with my cleric if you're one of those people. Sammiich is the one I'm pugging a lot atm... take a note and DON"T PLAY WITH HER please.

[CombatLibrarian]

Errrrgh! It so annoys me when people say 'oh you're the cleric... you're meant to do x,y,z'.

Yes, please choose not to party with my cleric if you're one of those people. Sammiich is the one I'm pugging a lot atm... take a note and DON"T PLAY WITH HER please.

No, I'm perfectly fine with however you want to play your cleric. However, if you don't plan on healing, just say so up front. If you don't plan on cleansing, say so up front. It's pretty much just that easy.

The only reason I'd have a problem with you is if you showed up to a group stating that you're the main healer and then refuse to do those things and/or aren't set up to do those things.

[petegunn]

i see you did understand my gibberish in the end (i can rewrite it in german so you can mock me a bit for my native language aswell). anyway, care to quote any of those multiple times were it was implied that you don't know anything about ddo healing?

you made assumptions while we just said that everyone is entitled to look after themselves.




i don't tell you how you play your char. if you feel like removing everything from the whole party, be my guest but don't expect the same from other with the cleric/fvs symbol (dedicated or not).

Blitzy me old pal I was thinking the very same thing reference to your Deutchen

[Folonius]

Really?

Heh ... Fixed ... I was talking about my wizard being mummy rotted at lvl 12 and thinking about my lvl 20 FvS running epic without heavy fort when I posted that.

[MeliCat]

No, I'm perfectly fine with however you want to play your cleric. However, if you don't plan on healing, just say so up front. If you don't plan on cleansing, say so up front. It's pretty much just that easy.

The only reason I'd have a problem with you is if you showed up to a group stating that you're the main healer and then refuse to do those things and/or aren't set up to do those things.

dear CombatLibrarian, what do you mean by 'clensing'????

do you mean poison, exhaust, curses, disease? as mentioned earlier i cast those from a pot.

they cost money. and not a lot of money. if i find myself doing this a *lot* for a player then i will walk over and *give* them a stack of 10 pots and comment that they can buy them themselves.

if that player is ungrateful/snotty/careless/unpleasant well then i won't be playing with them again.

sounds like you're the sort of player who doesn't bother to buy pots. in which case, please add Sammiich to your DNG list.

[CombatLibrarian]

dear CombatLibrarian, what do you mean by 'clensing'????

do you mean poison, exhaust, curses, disease? as mentioned earlier i cast those from a pot.

they cost money. and not a lot of money. if i find myself doing this a *lot* for a player then i will walk over and *give* them a stack of 10 pots and comment that they can buy them themselves.

if that player is ungrateful/snotty/careless/unpleasant well then i won't be playing with them again.

sounds like you're the sort of player who doesn't bother to buy pots. in which case, please add Sammiich to your DNG list.

Way to ignore anything I've actually said on the subject. (That I do carry pots and wands where available, and only ask for cleanses if it's an instances where the mana is plentiful.) I also feel that if you're a healer and can't remove curses, diseases, exhaustion, with spells, then you are not setup as a dedicated healer and it bears mentioning to the groups you join. And again, even then, I would only blame you for not using those spells if the instance is generous with shrine placement.

But yanno what, with that attitude, gladly. Dutifully squelched in-game. Let it not be said I do not do my best to please.

[PowerOfRaistlin]

You know what, I love Khyber . I'm not sure what's more interesting, what occurred, or its discussion 8).

I think a good metaphor for all of this would be like showing up to school without paper etc. There are some instructors which will send you to the office for it. There are also some class mates who will share with you. All of that depends on your attitude.

[Postumus]

Neither you nor I individually is the final arbiter of DDO as a whole. That said: I, personally, am perfectly free to expect of healers performance which I put out myself. If I can ask for it without hypocrisy, than telling me what I can and cannot expect from others is just setting yourself up with a false crown of arbitration. You're perfectly free to avoid me in the future, should you encounter me, if you feel that's unfair.

I love the way you post!


Still laughing at "To quote the Bard: "lolwut?"

[Doxmaster]

Kyber drama is getting tame...I remember back in the day when some dude looted something instead of putting it up for roll and you guys lynched his grandparents. Now-a-days, you have diplomatic discussions and what-not.

[Postumus]

Errrrgh! It so annoys me when people say 'oh you're the cleric... you're meant to do x,y,z'.

I'm a DDO libertarian. Play how you want. But why would someone playing a cleric EVER get annoyed that someone else asked for a heal or a cure. That's just silly.


That's like a combat medic getting annoyed with his machine gunner that he didn't bring his own bandages.

Soldier: Oh man, they got me good! I'm all shot up. Can you help me out?



Medic: Lolwut? Use your own bandages. I'm a COMBAT medic... emphasis COMBAT.



Soldier: Hunh? But you're a medic too, right? I mean, you're the one with the best training to help...



Medic: STOP! I hate it when people tell me how to I'm supposed perform my role in this squad!

[PowerOfRaistlin]

i like the soldier one, kinda funny, but more like he was asking to borrow a hankie because he sure was crying a lot.

i like the lynching the grandparents idea, wish i knew his alts :'(

[MeliCat]

Way to ignore anything I've actually said on the subject. (That I do carry pots and wands where available, and only ask for cleanses if it's an instances where the mana is plentiful.) I also feel that if you're a healer and can't remove curses, diseases, exhaustion, with spells, then you are not setup as a dedicated healer and it bears mentioning to the groups you join. And again, even then, I would only blame you for not using those spells if the instance is generous with shrine placement.

But yanno what, with that attitude, gladly. Dutifully squelched in-game. Let it not be said I do not do my best to please.

thank you.

"dedicated healer". interesting. and you continue to use the word "cleanses". and continue to *insist* that what you define as a "dedicated healer" *must* load "cleanses" as spells rather than any other way. why waste time shrining at every, single, shrine if sensible sp usage (and cheaply casting "cleanses" from a pot is included in that) means you don't have to? clerics are slow enough in party as it is and i'm not having everyone wait for me.

you have some very *definite* opinions of the way "healers" *must* be played don't you?

oh well. you have fun your way and i'll have fun mine.

[unscythe]

Rofl, when I hear "dedicated healer", it makes me think low hp, lagging behind, piker.

I kinda hate dedicated healers in quests, fvs and clerics can do alot more then pike. They can crowd control, I mean if the party isn't taking alot of damage, then spend those spellpoints in keeping it that way, or make it so that people take less damage.

I mean if the party can't do their job, and if you can't do anything but heal, then it seems like a long and slow train wreck.

[Nexx]

MeliCat is my hero. Enough said.

[Calebro]

Way to ignore anything I've actually said on the subject. (That I do carry pots and wands where available, and only ask for cleanses if it's an instances where the mana is plentiful.) I also feel that if you're a healer and can't remove curses, diseases, exhaustion, with spells, then you are not setup as a dedicated healer and it bears mentioning to the groups you join. And again, even then, I would only blame you for not using those spells if the instance is generous with shrine placement.

But yanno what, with that attitude, gladly. Dutifully squelched in-game. Let it not be said I do not do my best to please.

Does my Assassin have to specify that he isn't a Mechanic as soon as he joins a party, or do you assume that I haven't intentionally gimped myself?

I get it, you generally want a mobile band-aid. But most healers don't want to play that way. They sell band-aids so that I don't have to use my mana for it. *edit: most good Clerics, that is.

[unscythe]

Does my Assassin have to specify that he isn't a Mechanic as soon as he joins a party, or do you assume that I haven't intentionally gimped myself?

I get it, you generally want a mobile band-aid. But most healers don't want to play that way. They sell band-aids so that I don't have to use my mana for it. *edit: most good Clerics, that is.

Lies, rogue mechanics are cool, they heal the WF when the gimpy clerics refuse to!

[Calebro]

Lies, rogue mechanics are cool, they heal the WF when the gimpy clerics refuse to!

Any rogue can do that. It's called UMD. But the uselessness of a Mechanic is a different topic.
Unless that was sarcasm.

[Slink]

MeliCat is my hero. Enough said.

Mine too.

btw Meli, most of us have had the good fortune of you joining our groups.
Don't let some combat librarian (emphasis on combat) tell you what's up.

Go for the eyes!

[stainer]

I have ran with a cleric that is one of the best on the server. He has let me "see the light at the end of the tunnel" so many times, I am grateful when anybody heals me.

[flynnjsw]

I'm a DDO libertarian. Play how you want. But why would someone playing a cleric EVER get annoyed that someone else asked for a heal or a cure. That's just silly.


That's like a combat medic getting annoyed with his machine gunner that he didn't bring his own bandages.

Well I don't know about the Army, but Marines actually DO have their own medkits. Granted it is mostly to use on others (and really doesn't contain much), but it's there. Besides, if a few more rounds will prevent the injury in the first place, I would prefer that.