Khyber Drama Thread #608

[PowerOfRaistlin]

I call together the board of trustees today in order that we keep the monopoly of the peace and bring to light a certain person that has earned a special place on the naughty list.

Summary of the offense:
Nastiness for not receiving a heal every time he was fatigued while running Inferno of the Damned.

Quick highlight:
x: Can I get a heal, I'm fatigued.
me: No
x: You really are being a !@#$%
me: If you had lesser restoration pots, you wouldn't be having this problem, try asking if anyone can spot you.
x: Well I guess I shouldn't cast any more spells for the group either.

Rest of the quest:
x: Blah blah blah QQ blah blah blah

And with that, I adjourn the meeting, feel free to make discreet inquiries if you so desire.

[Calebro]

I had a similar guy last week.
I told him to drink a pot.
He told me that he didn't have any because he was saving his money for a new axe.

Well then, I'm saving my mana for things that I think will help ME instead of things that will help you.... see how that works?

[MeliCat]

lol

so what, this arcane is like level 15 and hasn't got around to buying a stack of lesser restoration pots?

i cast lesser restore pots from pots off my cleric. i think if i had been there as the cleric i would have walked over to him and handed him a stack of 10 pots with a pointed comment about how you can buy them from the marketplace.

so did this person have curse pots? please tell me they did?

[Jay203]

lol

so what, this arcane is like level 15 and hasn't got around to buying a stack of lesser restoration pots?

i cast lesser restore pots from pots off my cleric. i think if i had been there as the cleric i would have walked over to him and handed him a stack of 10 pots with a pointed comment about how you can buy them from the marketplace.

so did this person have curse pots? please tell me they did?

more importantly, he let the enemies last long enough to fatigue him as a caster? :O:O:O

[k0ukla]

Don't you know already? the lazy ppl rely on the clerics for their lack of common sense to buy their own pots because well.... "we have a cleric they can do it for us"

[PowerOfRaistlin]

Don't you know already? the lazy ppl rely on the clerics for their lack of common sense to buy their own pots because well.... "we have a cleric they can do it for us"

precisely the point. his decision to react poorly to my advice lead to battle cleric

the fact that i could have solved it easily is beside the point. unfortunately there was someone kind enough to keep him out of my pocket.

[NXPlasmid]

I call together the board of trustees today in order that we keep the monopoly of the peace and bring to light a certain person that has earned a special place on the naughty list.

Summary of the offense:
Nastiness for not receiving a heal every time he was fatigued while running Inferno of the Damned.

Quick highlight:
x: Can I get a heal, I'm fatigued.
me: No
x: You really are being a !@#$%
me: If you had lesser restoration pots, you wouldn't be having this problem, try asking if anyone can spot you.
x: Well I guess I shouldn't cast any more spells for the group either.

Rest of the quest:
x: Blah blah blah QQ blah blah blah

And with that, I adjourn the meeting, feel free to make discreet inquiries if you so desire.

So you can't carry a lesser restore wand? Not that I don't agree that people should carry pots, but I remember when someone told me they always have stacks of 100 cure serious and 100 haste pots all the time, I thought that was insane, how could any one afford that. Well, now that is exactly what I do without a thought. If someone's ability to buy pots is hindering their ability to buy something off the AH they must not have that much plat. wands are cheap comparitively. It doesn't always have to be about teaching people the hard lesson. T

[NXPlasmid]

Don't you know already? the lazy ppl rely on the clerics for their lack of common sense to buy their own pots because well.... "we have a cleric they can do it for us"

and lazy clerics don't do their job sometimes... like not carrying lesser restore wands if they are worried about spell points.

[PowerOfRaistlin]

you caught me, im a lazy healer. i didnt have the ability to take care of the problem. i didnt chose not to because of how he acted. i should have focused on him instead of getting 5 other people through a quest. and more to the point, i dont go through hundreds of thousands of plat to help other people get what they want to enjoy the game more. /sarcasm off

[k0ukla]

no it doesnt always have to be the hard way im mostly talkin now about specific runs where you need to carry, for example, your own curse pots and yet for some reason there is always atleast one who still needs the cleric to do it and doesnt speak up about it at all until.... oh yeah heals arent hitting hmmmm someone didnt bring pots n didnt say anything...it's just frustrating

otherwise im not normally fussed and i only say this also because on my rgr i carry 100 min of many diff pots soooo why shouldnt others try and make it easier on clerics also and also be self sufficient... I guess tho that I am bias...

Not saying though that there are not lazy clerics cuz there are plenty of those..

[Nexx]

That's a lot of fatiguing o_O'
So was this caster grabbing aggro, standing there,
and getting fatigued all the time???

I won't fuss about giving someone a restoration
for their being fatigued, but I can see where it would
get annoying as hell since it happened throughout
the entire quest.

As a person who plays a healing class
as their main - it is apart of my "job"
to help people get through a quest even
the annoying ones. As much as I would
love to tell the person to shove it where the sun don't shine
for constantly asking for a restoration - I can't because
they too are contributing to the quest.

I can though offer advice such as - don't stand
there in the front line with the melee's. Or don't
cast your fw and stand there like an idiot as if your
fw's instantly kill the mobs

I am sorry you felt bothered by the person asking
to give him a restoration - I do feel for you - it does
get annoying. Then again it comes with the territory =/

[sephiroth1084]

Doing a Bastion of Power a while back, an 18th lvl ranger got cursed by something, and ran around with the curse up for an entire floor, before typing something like, "Well, is someone going to ****ing remove this curse from me, or what?"

I said to him, "You're a level 18 character, you should have Remove Curse pots or clickies on you--it isn't our responsibility to babysit you."

He *****ed and moaned about how I was being an elitist, and how simple a request it was, blah, blah, blah. He started cursing at me in party chat, and never stopped all through the rest of the quest, even though one of the other people ended up removing his curse after a bit.

After we finished, and just before he dropped, he said, "By the way, I normally have pots but ran out."

[herzkos]

Uhhm, khyber drama thread #608 was sometime in 2006 i think.
I believe that this one would be #608003

So you can't carry a lesser restore wand? Not that I don't agree that people should carry pots, but I remember when someone told me they always have stacks of 100 cure serious and 100 haste pots all the time, I thought that was insane, how could any one afford that. Well, now that is exactly what I do without a thought. If someone's ability to buy pots is hindering their ability to buy something off the AH they must not have that much plat. wands are cheap comparitively. It doesn't always have to be about teaching people the hard lesson. T

or said person could buy the cleric/fvs/ umd rogue in the party a wand of lesser restore to take care of him
because he's too cheap to carry pots.

[Lo_Pan]

On my cleric I always ensure that I go into a raid with at least 200 heal scrolls, 100 lesser restoration scrolls, 50 restoration scrolls and roughly 50 mass restoration scrolls. Anything less than that is considered sub-pare by my own standards. Running quests, and in particular a chain of quests, is another matter....Not to disrespect anyone, but sometimes people need to look towards efficiency when playing a healer for a group.... And sometimes its just THAT much more efficient to lead from the front, teaching both tanks and arcanes that the cleric really IS someone to respect, and to fear.

[Emili]

Once, fine... twice well err ok, three times? Take a nap. Although I do agree with Lo_Pan that my characters are prepared to alliviate everything they may for some other player ... I can understand how such can become old when you have someone constantly needing assistance on every step through.

[Nospheratus]

I would have done the same thing IF i was asked like sephiroth1084 described. If you are in a group, what's wrong about helping other people out? The guy wasn't even rude when asking for a lesser restoration. And his justification (unless he was lying) was ok IMO, he was low on funds. Personaly i'd gladly even give him some pots considering i don't need the plat for anything at all...

If you don't want to help the group, don't join one - that's how i see it.

It's like healing.
"oh boy, he got damaged again for the 23489273th time in this quest.. let him buy pots"
Except it's a different button if you use lesser restoration.

But that's just me.

[Calebro]

There's a big difference between (a) throwing someone a Heal for 200hp vs telling them to drink pots for 23hp and (b) wasting mana *repeatedly* on something that comes in pot form with the same exact effect. Pots don't heal nearly as well as mana does, but pots cure ailments the exact same way that mana does. You can't compare the two, so your example holds no merit.
Stop being a miser and buy some pots.

As Emili said, and I agree with her, once: fine, twice: ***?, three times: sorry dude.

[MalakRevan]

I call together the board of trustees today in order that we keep the monopoly of the peace and bring to light a certain person that has earned a special place on the naughty list.

Summary of the offense:
Nastiness for not receiving a heal every time he was fatigued while running Inferno of the Damned.

Quick highlight:
x: Can I get a heal, I'm fatigued.
me: No
x: You really are being a !@#$%
me: If you had lesser restoration pots, you wouldn't be having this problem, try asking if anyone can spot you.
x: Well I guess I shouldn't cast any more spells for the group either.

Rest of the quest:
x: Blah blah blah QQ blah blah blah

And with that, I adjourn the meeting, feel free to make discreet inquiries if you so desire.

weak. There is not drama here, move along people.

/vomit

Go home and try again.

[Nospheratus]

There's a big difference between (a) throwing someone a Heal for 200hp vs telling them to drink pots for 23hp and (b) wasting mana *repeatedly* on something that comes in pot form with the same exact effect. Pots don't heal nearly as well as mana does, but pots cure ailments the exact same way that mana does. You can't compare the two, so your example holds no merit.
Stop being a miser and buy some pots.

As Emili said, and I agree with her, once: fine, twice: ***?, three times: sorry dude.

That was not the point, and FYI i always carry pots or wands, even on my cleric.

[Calebro]

That was not the point, and FYI i always carry pots or wands, even on my cleric.

That was a general statement toward people who would think that way, not necessarily directed at you.

So if that wasn't the point, I must have missed it. What was the point then?