YABAAB (yet another bad arcane archer build) elf 14 bard 6 ranger

[chodelord]

Just playing with the concept but basically a level 14 bard buffbot (haste, displace, gh, songs) with arcane archer enhancements and feats so you can plink away while your party does its thing

has a bit of healing power with wands and his respectable spell point pool

weaknesses are no toughness and no evasion (and probably several others people smarter than me will point out)

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Level 20 Neutral Good Elf Male
(6 Ranger \ 14 Bard) 
Hit Points: 172
Spell Points: 757 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 20
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    16
Dexterity            16                    22
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence         10                    10
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma             14                    18

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                     6
Bluff                 2                     4
Concentration         1                     5
Diplomacy             2                     4
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     4
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  3                     6
Intimidate            2                     4
Jump                  3                     3
Listen                0                     2
Move Silently         3                     6
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     0
Search                0                     2
Spot                  0                     2
Swim                  3                     3
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Bard)


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 4 (Bard)


Level 5 (Bard)


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness


Level 7 (Bard)


Level 8 (Bard)


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 10 (Bard)


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 13 (Bard)


Level 14 (Bard)


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 16 (Ranger)


Level 17 (Ranger)


Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 19 (Ranger)


Level 20 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Spellsinger I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Item Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Bard Concentration I
Enhancement: Bard Concentration II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery III

[unbongwah]

I won't claim this is a better build, but here's my take - ranger 2 / ftr 2 / bard 16 AA Virtuoso:

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Level 20 True Neutral Elf Female
(2 Fighter \ 2 Ranger \ 16 Bard) 
Hit Points: 244
Spell Points: 515 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 18
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    22
Dexterity            17                    20
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             12                    14

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    13
Bluff                 1                     2
Concentration         2                    25
Diplomacy             5                    27
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     2
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  3                     5
Intimidate            1                     2
Jump                  6                    12
Listen               -1                     3
Move Silently         3                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               5                    32
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                 -1                     1
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                4                     6
Use Magic Device      5                    25

Level 1 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Perform (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Focusing Chant


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Manyshot


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Perform (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Spell (2): Heroism
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Perform
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Bard Music of the Dead
Enhancement: Bard Virtuoso I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Bard Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Perform II
Enhancement: Bard Energy of the Music I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Perform (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Spell (2): Rage
Spell (3): Displacement
Spell (3): Haste


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Spell (3): Good Hope


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 17 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Shadow Walk


Level 18 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds


Level 19 (Bard)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (5): Mind Fog
Spell (6): Otto's Irresistable Dance
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II
Enhancement: Bard Music of Makers
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery III
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery IV

Compared to yours, it's got 2 more bard lvls (for lvl 6 spells), more HPs, and higher STR for more DPS, but lower SPs (no MT, lower CHA) and no ITWF (though feats can be adjusted).

[chodelord]

I think they are pretty close.

Mine gets a 2nd favored enemy which would be evil outsiders, so that would be 4/2 more damage in those situations than yours.

Mine also gets rams might which is 2 damage and 2 str making up the str difference between the builds.

You don't have the elf attack or damage enhancements with is +2/+2 in my build's favor but it is a wash because I don't max bard attack song.

I think a hybrid can created with 4 ranger/16 bard if I drop spellsinger.

There still will be no room for toughness.

1. extend spell
2. manyshot
3. weapon focus ranged
4. rapid shot
5. improved critical ranged
6. precise shot
7. improved precise shot

Thanks for the response!

[wootvenu]

interesting build, thanks