Buying Portal Beating Greatsword

[Goldeneye]

Lookin' for the best Portal Beater possible for my WF Fighter.
Paying very well. Looking for something along the lines of: Anarchic Burst GCB.
I have plat, larges, scrolls, you name it.

[Goldeneye]

closed. I did some math. Triple pos greatsword is pretty much exactly on par w/ the best portal beater (+5 Anarchic Burst of GCB)

[Khellendros13]

I saw that in chat...that got very busy very fast!

I would make a dual/triple pos maul instead of greatsword. Then you have a great undead beater. The raise clicky is worth it too.

I have a dual pos maul on my WF barb and I do use it a fair bit. If you have the scales, may as well make it triple pos.

[emptysands]

Not so sure.

Crits don't apply to the portals, so IC/Critical Burst has no use. Then we have:

AB&GCB Maul 1d10+5 20/x3 + 2d6+[2d6 o/c] +4+3d6
GSMaul 2d8+5 20/x3 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6 o/c]+[4d6 o/c] +[4d6 o/20]


Base damage on the GCB weapon is greater by 1.5:

ABGCB 15.5 + 5d6 + 2d6(o/c)
PPP 14 + 3d6 + 8d6(o/c) + 4d6(o/20)

The PPP needs 12 larges and the last tier has no affect on portals.


AB&GCB= 1d10+5+2d6+[2d6]+4+3d6
= 18/20 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 4 + 10.5)
= .90 * 33
= 29.7

PPP=2d8+5 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6 o/c]+[4d6 o/c] +[4d6 o/20]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5)
= .90 * 24.5
= 22.05

PP=2d8 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6 o/c]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5)
= .90 * 24.5
= 22.05


Power Attack/STR/etc will have the same affect. Although when you add these in, the percentage difference between the per swing rates will drop.

So likely it's PP vs AB&GCB - so you have to factor the cost of twigs/pies/etc vs single situational use of the AB&GCB.

Personally I think Holy/GCB Greatsword is probably best - plus you can use it in VON as well.

FYI, factoring in criticals:

AB&GCB= 1d10+5+2d6+[2d6]+4+3d6
= 18/20 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 4 + 10.5) + 1/20 * 3 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 7 + 4 + 10.5)
= 21/20 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 4 + 10.5) + 1/20 * 3 * 7
= 1.05 * 33
= 34.65

PPP=2d8+5 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6]+[4d6] +[4d6 o/20]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * ( 9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5 + 14 + 14 + 14 )
= 21/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * 3 * ( 14 )
= 1.05 * 24.5 + .45 * 14
= 32.025

PP=2d8 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * ( 9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5 + 14)
= 21/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * (14)
= 1.05 * 24.5 + .15 * 14
= 27.825

[Goldeneye]

I would make a dual/triple pos maul instead of greatsword. Then you have a great undead beater. The raise clicky is worth it too..

WF Fighter - specced greatsword!

Empty sands - my head hurts atm - I'll review that later :P thanks though!

[Goldeneye]

check my math for me:

[Aranticus]

Not so sure.

Crits don't apply to the portals, so IC/Critical Burst has no use. Then we have:

AB&GCB Maul 1d10+5 20/x3 + 2d6+[2d6 o/c] +4+3d6
GSMaul 2d8+5 20/x3 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6 o/c]+[4d6 o/c] +[4d6 o/20]


Base damage on the GCB weapon is greater by 1.5:

ABGCB 15.5 + 5d6 + 2d6(o/c)
PPP 14 + 3d6 + 8d6(o/c) + 4d6(o/20)

The PPP needs 12 larges and the last tier has no affect on portals.


AB&GCB= 1d10+5+2d6+[2d6]+4+3d6
= 18/20 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 4 + 10.5)
= .90 * 33
= 29.7

PPP=2d8+5 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6 o/c]+[4d6 o/c] +[4d6 o/20]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5)
= .90 * 24.5
= 22.05

PP=2d8 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6 o/c]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5)
= .90 * 24.5
= 22.05


Power Attack/STR/etc will have the same affect. Although when you add these in, the percentage difference between the per swing rates will drop.

So likely it's PP vs AB&GCB - so you have to factor the cost of twigs/pies/etc vs single situational use of the AB&GCB.

Personally I think Holy/GCB Greatsword is probably best - plus you can use it in VON as well.

FYI, factoring in criticals:

AB&GCB= 1d10+5+2d6+[2d6]+4+3d6
= 18/20 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 4 + 10.5) + 1/20 * 3 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 7 + 4 + 10.5)
= 21/20 * (5.5 + 5 + 7 + 4 + 10.5) + 1/20 * 3 * 7
= 1.05 * 33
= 34.65

PPP=2d8+5 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6]+[4d6] +[4d6 o/20]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * ( 9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5 + 14 + 14 + 14 )
= 21/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * 3 * ( 14 )
= 1.05 * 24.5 + .45 * 14
= 32.025

PP=2d8 + 2d6+1d6+[4d6]
= 18/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * ( 9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5 + 14)
= 21/20 * (9 + 5 + 7 + 3.5) + 1/20 * 3 * (14)
= 1.05 * 24.5 + .15 * 14
= 27.825

weapon damage is not multiplied nor seeker added for portals on crits. however, the crit effects will still go thru

[Aranticus]

check my math for me:

you did not apply the +4 for gtr bane

+5 = ML8, anarchic burst = ML8, gcb = ML6. total ML = 22, rr 20. its easier to make a +++ maul then find such a gcb

[Goldeneye]

Oops. Thanks - Greater bane is +4 damage and +3d6.
...even so - finding a portal beater like that is only realistic in theory.
So triple pos wins!

[Astraghal]

As a slashing feated fighter with axe damage enhancements, I do more damage to portals with mineral II greateaxe than triple positive maul.

[Aranticus]

As a slashing feated fighter with axe damage enhancements, I do more damage to portals with mineral II greateaxe than triple positive maul.

this is true but the OP could be a stun specced fighter. the other argument is that a min2 greataxe is useless vs undead

[Goldeneye]

I was Warhammer specced (When weighted was no-save)... but I got my eSoS, and now I'm greatsword specced. Soon I'll have an Epic Sword of Shadows, Mineral II Greatsword, and Triple Pos Greatsword.


I know that the 3 tiers on triple positive effect portals:

• Holy
• Good Burst
• Good Blast

Do all 3 effects also work on Elementals? (Fire/Earth/Air/Water)