18FvS/2Monk(first build) need qritque

[Esgilioth]

Hey this is my first time building a build(lol)
I would like to know how good it is, I don't have the time to actually level half the builds I do have.
But if someone would tell me if this will work or if it needs more work
and the spells give me some info on the spells, I don't feel that I chose the right ones
it's supposta be a pretty level toon, good at melee, ok at spell DPS and good at healing
Thanks for the help

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Drow Female
(2 Monk \ 18 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 327
Spell Points: 1765 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 18
Will: 19

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(28 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    16
Dexterity            14                    18
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               14                    20
Charisma             12                    20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                    10
Bluff                 1                     5
Concentration         6                    26
Diplomacy             1                    10
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                     5
Heal                  4                    21
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            1                     5
Jump                  4                    10
Listen                2                     7
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     3
Spot                  2                     8
Swim                  2                     3
Tumble                n/a                   6
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Sovereign Host
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Enhancement: Improved Spell Resistance I
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Spell (1): Nightshield
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I


Level 4 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Spell (3): Searing Light
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (2): Sonic Blast
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (4): Unholy Blight
Enhancement: Monk Spot I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity
Feat: (Selected) Whirling Steel Strike
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II


Level 13 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (5): Flame Strike


Level 14 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Spell (6): Heal
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma III


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (4): Panacea
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II


Level 19 (Favored Soul)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Spell (7): Destruction
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Spell (9): Energy Drain
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longsword Specialization II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II

[Danmor]

There are already lots of 18/2 FvS/Monk builds around. Most of them focus on TWF, there's a reason for that.

As to your specific build:
Why do you take the monk levels at 7/8? Monks get more skill points, so the first level should be taken in monk. Also, the best spells of a divine are BB and heal. You might want to wait with the second monk level until you get those spells (or at least one of them)

Why aren't you taking any metamagic feats except extend and empower? Your healing will suffer without quicken (mass heal, bb) and your blade barriers will suck without maximize (even though empower helps).

I like the idea of combining Drow with Whirling Steel Strike, but for me that combination takes too many feats to be viable, as it really hurts your TWF and casting abilities.

[r3dl4nce]

Whirling steel strike on a feat starved class is impossibile to have.

Bonus from drow = 0 .
Elf 32 points + scimitars is the way.


This is the build I'm using, 34 points because I'm TRx1. If you have 32 points go with 15 STR

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Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
(2 Monk \ 18 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 282
Spell Points: 1711 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 17
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    18
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         11                    13
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom               16                    25
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Undying Court


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 4 (Favored Soul)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Favored Soul)


Level 8 (Favored Soul)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Favored Soul)


Level 11 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Favored Soul)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 16 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid


Level 17 (Favored Soul)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 19 (Favored Soul)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Valenar Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization II
Enhancement: Way of the Faithful Hound I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II

[Danmor]

I guess you could fit the whirling steel strike on a Human build. But then you'd have to drop some feats and move the order around a bit. Also, you'd lose out on the elf enhancements with +2 to-hit and damage.
All of that just to stay centered ... not worth it imo

[r3dl4nce]

for WSS you need proficiency in longsword (on a FvS you can obtain by chosing the sovereign host faith) and WF:longsword. 3xTWF. Toughness. Power Attack. Quicken. Maximize. Extend. IC: Slash (no you can't go with 2xminII because 2xLitII are way more useful so you need IC). A total of 11 feat. Human fvs18/monk2 get 10 feat. So you must drop extend (and have lesser efficient BB). All of this for what? Longsword have worst critical thrat and critical multiplier. Fire stance to get +2 STR (so +1 to hit and +1 damage) but going elf with scimitars you gain +2 to hit and +2 damage from racial enhancments.
No, fvs/monk with longsword is not worth.

[Bart_D]

Drow would probably use shortswords (better twf-tohit but piercing and less crit range than scimitars) and automatically gives '32pt' to a stat-starved build so maybe it should not be dismissed so quickly?

The bonuses to dex, int, cha are all useful.... how about something like this:
Str 14
Dex 15 (13+2) to get twf feats with +2 tome
Con 12 (14-2)
Int 10 (8+2)
Wis 16
Cha 11 (9+2)
... maybe move a point from con to cha, i dunno. All increases in wisdom.

[Arlathen]

I would drop the idea of staying centred for Monk stances while using Longswords. Your posted build only has the TWF feat, so your offhand attacks are only at 40% efficiency when the could be at 80% instead.

You need to many feat to make Longswords work properly.

If you want to use Drow (not a bad choice if you don't have 32pt character builds available), then I would seriously suggest you stick to using Shortswords (Drow Racial and FvS bonuses To Hit and Damage) and look to gain just the Evasion and Wis bonus to AC from your Monk levels. You could always pile on a Potency/SpellPen/Lore/Magi Quarterstaff and then drop into Water stance for offensive casting.

[Danmor]

A TWF shortsword wielding drow FvS should be viable. You lose a bit of dps compared to an elf build with scimitars due to decreased number of crits though.

Anyways, you should really think hard about whirling steel strike. You lose a lot when you go that way.

[Steveohio]

Pretty much what everyone else has already said.
Whirling Steel strike is too hard to make work on a FVS. The gains from being centered are too low. Just switch to wraps if you really need that extra wis/dc. I'd give it up.

You also need to take quicken. Its basically a must have if you plan on using your 2 best spells (mass heal, bladebarrier)

Also, either commit to 15 dex base for the GTWF/ITWF line, or don't bother with the monk levels. Generally the /2 monk splashes are there for those 2 extra feats so that you can fit those both in.

I'd also think about going elf or human if you want to use longswords/unyielding faith. The extra feat or +2dmg/atk are very nice. This is of course, assuming you have 32pt builds.

[Esgilioth]

Alright, Thanks for the help I'll use the info you guys gave me for later use, right now imma stick with a pure FvS and TR a few times
I usually splash monk for the boost to saves and AC but then again, I rarely ever splash monk on anything other than Cleric and FvS.
Thanks again, I'll put the info to good use

[Esgilioth]

And as for Extend and Empower being the only Metas, I simply forgot about Maximize and Quick :/