Bloodstone Glorification?

[Hokonoso]

before the char in my sig Tr'd to a barb he was a ranger and pulled a bloodstone on my first run of the day, logged off and played diff toon, next day logged on and pulled another bloodstone. ive pulled at least 6 bloodstones and traded most off and rarely use it even on toons that carry it. i have so many (i bought some before i started farming it) that i even bound it to many of my chars. ive also pulled a ton of firestorm greaves and even a ring of spell storing so i've been pretty lucky in the desert...

[Rockcrusher]

The funny thing is that in the time it takes to get a Bloodstone, you can mine the Vale, Reavers, and Amrath rares along with IQ quick runs. You can make 3-5 million gold and buy one instead.
Seems easier to me.

It's also a grind, but you can pull other useful gear and mnemonic pots.

[CrimsonEagle]

The funny thing is that in the time it takes to get a Bloodstone, you can mine the Vale, Reavers, and Amrath rares along with IQ quick runs. You can make 3-5 million gold and buy one instead.
Seems easier to me.

It's also a grind, but you can pull other useful gear and mnemonic pots.

This is true, but it is a matter of pride not to mention the unwillingness to spend that much

I've been with a couple of people who have pulled em and even had one (a guildy) offer it to me but I did not take it. It has turned into an obsession of pulling my own and the absurdity of the fact that I have ransacked those chests so many times yet still have failed to pull even one while others have pulled multiples.

I realize that it is luck of the roll, but it amazes me just how crappy my rolls are. In pnp I would have burned these dice by now and tried my luck with another set. I mean really, not only on the loot rolls, but on effects which need a 20 such as vorpal.

I joke around that I carry around vorpal butter knives that do 1 point of damage per attack and can still whittle down a 1500 point Orthon before I would get a vorpal. Its really discusting.

But as they say....if it was not for bad luck......

No matter. Will keep trying Part of the hunt which is part of the fun in a frustrating, twisted sort of way.

[cptcruch]

I feel your pain!! Been playing since day 1 and I have 2 Bloodstones! Too many runs to count and personally I dont think its worth the time or effort. Think of all the quest you can complete rather than continued runs for 2 chest and to end up with nothing but a funery token!

[SINIBYTE]

I gave up and got an arrowhead.

[Zion_Halcyon]

I got a bloodstone on my 1st serious try doing a solo run, after doing about 3 runs with other people when I was still new to the game.

*shrug*

Luck of the draw, I suppose. I still haven't gotten my hand on that **** whirlwind greatsword even though I have been farming the **** out of that chest.

[Frodo_Lives]

It's all luck of the draw in terms of if and when you pull one. +6 Seeker is a good effect and can add to your overall DPS which is nice, but not ungodly powerful either.

Part of the value is that it's a nice effect. Part of the value is that there are so few good trinkets out there that the demand for one is higher than the usefulness.

This might change a bit with the new Ion Stones, but it will continue to be a real nice trinket for many characters and be in demand.

[Folonius]

For what? I have, honestly, seen almost no use for the Bloodstone. +6 x3 (Greataxe) to Critical Damage with +6 to confirm. Okay, 18 dmg. Just... Epic? -.- As well, +6 to ... confirm? So far, it is a level 15 Great Axe Fighter Kensei. Now, I have been playing for three years. 15 level 20's total. On five different servers. I will admit, I play mostly casters, whether divine or arcane. But the sever my Melee DPS is on right now has most likely not seen such Dmg Output at such a low-Non TR level. (Excuse me for tooting my own horn. But with the equipment grinded for.... that statement has been tested in Shrouds with 20's, HoX, PvP etc. But I mean nothing bad about it. )
If one takes simple feats, which I think are required to some extent by full-20 Kensei Fighter, + the enhancements available, does one really need confirmation throughout Non-Epic content? (I can understand Epic content, but that is beside the point right now) Sure, maybe in PvP, where you will occasionally have an AC Tank who knows what it is doing, but....

I have a bloodstone on my bard. I took improved slashing (crit) as my last feat, and use masters touch on falchions. The bloodstone gives a +12 to my critical damage on my bard, and I crit 30% of the time. It can be improved if you make it epic to a +10 seeker.

As a greataxe user, you'll crit 5% of the time but get a +18 to the damage or 10% of the time if you have improved crit slashing.

A khopesh is probably the best weapon for the bloodstone, critting 20% of the time with imp crit slashing for +18 damage.

On top of all this, it's a trinket. There aren't many worthwhile trinkets out there and I haven't seen any more useful for a melee DPS than bloodstone.

[Rumbaar]

It's only 1 of 2 [I think] seeker trinkets, that add +6 to on/off hand weapons before multiplier.

With little else for the Trinket slots for applicable characters it is very nice.

That being said I've pulled around 8 myself and have 3 banked if I ever run a toon that needs one and other active toons have one equipped.

But on my Monk I tend to still use an Arrowhead for the +2 to Hit, and for my Melee FvS I swap in for melee, but tend to have my voice in there for the +1 luck bonus.

[hecate355]

it goes into trinket slot, it adds damage which gets in 2wf case multiplied over two weapon while occupying fairly useless slot for me..

everyone drives their chars closer to perfection, whether its 18 crit damage, 10% extra damage, one, just one more ac and so on and on, if its part of what your build is supposed to do, it all matters, every tiny little point

as fire cold caster you dont say hey, i dont take that last 15% or whatever last enhancement gave, its just a 15%

but think about it, maximum base damage on firewall is 2d6+20, thats laughable, but every tiny thing that adds inside of that base will come out huge

ps: can some1 explain why acid fog doesent do same damage on elec/acid specced char than fw does on fire/cold build? as far as my math skills and memory goes, both are 2d6+caster level.

and i do know what im talking about when saying that elec/acid line with max enhancements and equal equipment does not raise your acid fog over some1-s others firewall, in fact, you do about same damage with your crit acid fog than with non specced firewall.

[rest]

This is true, but it is a matter of pride not to mention the unwillingness to spend that much

I've been with a couple of people who have pulled em and even had one (a guildy) offer it to me but I did not take it. It has turned into an obsession of pulling my own and the absurdity of the fact that I have ransacked those chests so many times yet still have failed to pull even one while others have pulled multiples.

I realize that it is luck of the roll, but it amazes me just how crappy my rolls are. In pnp I would have burned these dice by now and tried my luck with another set. I mean really, not only on the loot rolls, but on effects which need a 20 such as vorpal.

I joke around that I carry around vorpal butter knives that do 1 point of damage per attack and can still whittle down a 1500 point Orthon before I would get a vorpal. Its really discusting.

But as they say....if it was not for bad luck......

No matter. Will keep trying Part of the hunt which is part of the fun in a frustrating, twisted sort of way.

Change the color of your dice. It's almost like getting a new set.

[AyumiAmakusa]

I got a bloodstone on my 1st serious try doing a solo run, after doing about 3 runs with other people when I was still new to the game.

*shrug*

Luck of the draw, I suppose. I still haven't gotten my hand on that **** whirlwind greatsword even though I have been farming the **** out of that chest.

I got one the first time I step foot in the Sands.

At first I was like, 'Oh hey more jewels for me to sell'.

Luckily I noticed it had an odd price so I took a deeper look.

Nearly brokered a good thing there.

[Emili]

If you are participating in the DPS race, every little bit is worth grinding for.

+6 added to your critical damage before multipliers are included means 18 extra damage on a khopsesh.

That's an average of 18*4/20 = 72/20 = 3.6 extra damage (hit on a 2 or better).

A +4 Str tome only adds 2.

Precisely... it's the equivalent of adding more than 1d6 (3.5) on average to extra damage to every khopesh you own. Accounts for 432 more damage on average in a minute... think of this five melee with it comes to 2160 vs five melee without... without any doubt among the higher dps toons seeker is a major boost. It attributes a difference between one rounding Harry vs two rounding him... likewise with every high hp mob. When you consider such the quicker the fight is over the less back end resources are needed. I much rather see clerics with mana left over in the tower then see them making decisions to drink a pot... and so forth.

I actually would prefer some epic maralith chain along with an epic duskheart.

Seeker also comes well into play on higher playing levels... i.e. epic or wherever you have mob which are proc'd/spelled into auto-crit - a khopesh now delivers 10.5 more damage each swin in such conditions - a character would have to have 21 more strength to equal that amount without it.

[Club'in]

A khopesh is probably the best weapon for the bloodstone, critting 20% of the time with imp crit slashing for +24 damage.

Khopesh is a x3 weapon, so the bloodstone adds +18 damage.

[Folonius]

Khopesh is a x3 weapon, so the bloodstone adds +18 damage.

6 x 3 = 24? dur ...

Thanks for correcting that.

[Emili]

Khopesh is a x3 weapon, so the bloodstone adds +18 damage.

Yes, the pick be the only x4 weapon.

[shablala]

So a Kensai fighter that specializes in using the Great Crossbow will really benefit from this right?

You serious? Kensei Great xbow? Did you loose a bet or something and forced to roll this toon or just for the challenge trying to make something half as viable as an arcane archer?

[nicro]

6 x 3 = 24? dur ...

Thanks for correcting that.

Just say you were referring to an Epic Bloodstone with its +8 Seeker.

[yfront]

And as a barbarian with a greataxe. Hitting that death frenzy while raged gives you a x6 on your crits. So 36 extra dmg from a trinket is pretty good =)

Now imagine an epic Maralith chain, that would be an extra 60dmg on a crit...