Holy Blossoming Giraffe Head Stew (aka WF Immunities)

[teh_meh]

Don't ask me why I am just finding out about this after playing DDO for over 4 months. Anyways, I just stumbled across a post from some dude explaining why his WF monk is the best tank in the game...so I did some investigating. And what I uncovered was shocking:



You have to be kidding me right? No getting held or level-drained? Ever??? Total disease immunity? Does that mean no fear of being blighted or mummified as well? I knew WF had some advantages worth purchasing but I had no idea it was this heinous. If you take this feat, know that you are thrusting your fist into the torso and ripping the guts out of everything that is Dungeons and Dragons. More like 'Dungeons and Potpourri'. I can understand Turbine wanting to create a class that makes DDO more accessible to younger/newer players...fine. But if you are any self-respecting gamer or D&D fan, I know you could not possibly be playing a warforged anything.

No dread from fighting undead and beholders?



When I see your WF from now on, I am going to be thinking this:



And your guides and youtube videos, showing people how 'solo this' or 'defeat that' with your WF toon? It gets filed under 'usefulness', along with this:



And on behalf of all of us who play traditional races with all the traditional frailties, you just got served suckah!



75% of every death I experienced grinding my toon to 20 was because I failed a save and got held/slowed or heavily stat/energy drained so KNOW that you are playing in god mode when you play a warforged.

PS. this post is mostly a joke because I am bored and the servers are down for maintenance. But feel free to flame me regardless. If your comments/insults are too harsh, no worries. I will just stumble over to the DDO Store and buy myself a WF which probably comes with Immunity: Hurt Feeling From Forum Posts as well.

[Rameses]

I should mention at this point that my WF monk and rogue do not have all these immunities because I've decreed that all my characters shall be played with a level of challenge equeal to and above that of the normal gamers experience: only to give other party members a feeling of equality when I am in their group. This has been decreed and Turbine has delivered like a good hireling.

I am, Rameses!
Halfling Paragon

[teh_meh]

I should mention at this point that my WF monk and rogue do not have all these
immunities because I've decreed that all my characters shall be played with a level of challenge equeal to and above that of the normal gamers experience: only to give other party members a feeling of equality when I am in their group. This has been decreed and Turbine has delivered like a good hireling.

Then you, good sir, have retained your honor!

[dranreb]

Rust monsters really tear up WF, if that makes you feel better.

[teh_meh]

Rust monsters really tear up WF, if that makes you feel better.

It would...if there were more than 4 of them in all of DDO.

[Dunfalach]

It would...if there were more than 4 of them in all of DDO.

That I know of so far:

One rare in Waterworks explorer area
One rare in Tangleroot explorer area
5-8 in Gwylan's Stand in the first cave (I hate that place)
One rare in Redfang
At least 2 others that I don't remember which quest they were in.

There's still a ton of quests I've not done yet, so there may be more. They also seem to be coded specifically to aggro on warforged (which makes sense as you're basically walking lunch). I have stood out of the way back behind everyone purposefully doing absolutely nothing and had a rust monster pass straight through the rest of the party beating on it to come charging for me. We hates them, Precious, we hates them.

Amusingly, my warforged also seems to be a magnet for poison and disease immunity items in chests. I pass them on to my fleshy alts.

If you see a beholder, stand back and let the warforged kill it. If you see a rust monster, stand back and watch the warforged run.

[systemstate]

Amusingly, my warforged also seems to be a magnet for poison and disease immunity items in chests. I pass them on to my fleshy alts.

Haha, I've noticed this seems to be a trend with my WF as well. Don't forget all the underwater action items. Particularly the ultra-useful "Underwater Action RR:Warforged" loot.

[Dunfalach]

Haha, I've noticed this seems to be a trend with my WF as well. Don't forget all the underwater action items. Particularly the ultra-useful "Underwater Action RR:Warforged" loot.

I might bank one of those if I pulled one, just on the off chance that a later update is going to see real underwater combat and those items will allow you to fight normally in water (rather than in an air bubble as Red Fens apparently does). But yes, we should include those as well. They're right up there with my fighter who keeps pulling spell components.

[KRaNiX1337]

Theres more, theres some in Tempests, Vault of Night, Inspiration Center

That I know of so far:

One rare in Waterworks explorer area
One rare in Tangleroot explorer area
5-8 in Gwylan's Stand in the first cave (I hate that place)
One rare in Redfang
At least 2 others that I don't remember which quest they were in.

There's still a ton of quests I've not done yet, so there may be more. They also seem to be coded specifically to aggro on warforged (which makes sense as you're basically walking lunch). I have stood out of the way back behind everyone purposefully doing absolutely nothing and had a rust monster pass straight through the rest of the party beating on it to come charging for me. We hates them, Precious, we hates them.

Amusingly, my warforged also seems to be a magnet for poison and disease immunity items in chests. I pass them on to my fleshy alts.

If you see a beholder, stand back and let the warforged kill it. If you see a rust monster, stand back and watch the warforged run.

[Wizzly_Bear]

That I know of so far:

One rare in Waterworks explorer area
One rare in Tangleroot explorer area
5-8 in Gwylan's Stand in the first cave (I hate that place)
One rare in Redfang
At least 2 others that I don't remember which quest they were in.

There's still a ton of quests I've not done yet, so there may be more. They also seem to be coded specifically to aggro on warforged (which makes sense as you're basically walking lunch). I have stood out of the way back behind everyone purposefully doing absolutely nothing and had a rust monster pass straight through the rest of the party beating on it to come charging for me. We hates them, Precious, we hates them.

Amusingly, my warforged also seems to be a magnet for poison and disease immunity items in chests. I pass them on to my fleshy alts.

If you see a beholder, stand back and let the warforged kill it. If you see a rust monster, stand back and watch the warforged run.

VoN 5, Ataraxia's Haven, and Rainbow in the Dark all have healthy rusty populations.

OP - very humorous thread. Humor aside - warforged are not an "easy button."

*-2 to two stats that are important on many builds and a +2 to con (imo a weak stat to get a bonus to).

*-50% divine healing

*They also miss out on some very nice armors/robes (though the fleshies miss out on some very nice docents).

*While beholders can't neg-level us, they can still do all their other tricks, and we can be insta-killed by rusties. Rusties can't do jack to you.

*While almost extinct nowadays, there once existed a very real and very strong racist attitude against warforged. We were very often excluded from groups, or if allowed to join, were told we would not be healed. I believe that this is one of the main reasons why soloing became so popular. Most of us wouldn't have bothered learning to solo everything if we weren't so despised amongst the populace.

[DrenglisEU]

Rust monsters really tear up WF, if that makes you feel better.

.....Jep BIG time.. have a WF barbarian :-/

[WizardsofZen]

so at level 14 go get green steel immunity goggles.

[Ughh]

Turbine DID NOT give warforged these traits...DnD core rules did
Quote and link included:

A warforged possesses the following traits –

Unlike other constructs, a Warforged has a Constitution score as well has Hit Dice.

A Warforged can see normally in all light conditions, its vision is impaired only in complete and utter darkness.

Because it is free-willed unlike other constructs, a Warforged is not immune to mind-affecting spells and abilities.

A Warforged has the following immunities – to poison, sleep effects, paralysis, disease, nausea, fatigue, exhaustion, effects that cause the sickened condition, and energy drain.

A Warforged can heal Hit Point damage normally, either by rest, repair, or magical healing. It CANNOT heal Critical (CON) Damage naturally – only magical healing can restore a Warforged’s Constitution.
http://dnd-realm.blogspot.com/2009/10/warforged.html

Original rules however limited warforged to these classes:
Allowable Classes
Fighter, Rogue, Cleric, Wizard, and Assassin.
(also shown in link)

SOOOOOOO...the actual Issue here is that Monks, Barbarians, Sorcs, Favored Souls..... according to the original concept are not allowed.....I think I will take the fact that the immunities are there as originally designed...AND the fact that my monk and Barb are allowed :P as per 3.5 ruleset be glad this game is based on 3.5 rules not previous rulesets.

[teh_meh]

Understood.

But understand that I understand why Turbine provides access to the WF. That is not the essence of my parody.

If you pay Turbine enough money, they will let you create an elder, ethereal, undead, vampiric, lich-i-fied dragon that fires CR37 elder beholders from its armpits. The question IS...

Do you make one? Then show everyone how awesome you are with it

[Ughh]

Understood.

But understand that I understand why Turbine provides access to the WF. That is not the essence of my parody.

If you pay Turbine enough money, they will let you create an elder, ethereal, undead, vampiric, lich-i-fied dragon that fires CR37 elder beholders from its armpits. The question IS...

Do you make one? Then show everyone how awesome you are with it

I guess I just don't understand where you are going with this. Many of us play this game because of it's (even slight at times) resemblence to pen and paper. This race is allowed AND played in PNP with these rulesets. As a matter of fact I know many friends that play WF in PnP. I really Do not see this as an EASY button when WF do have some disadvantages. Especially at lower levels or with inexperienced players when it comes to healing. It took me 4 years to finally build a WF i was really happy with..Need healing amp and the right gear to survive damage as well as some other races. I just see WAY too many other "easy" buttons in this game that far outweigh what the WF advantages may be. And please understand that I am not trying to argue with you. Just speaking my opinion. cheers and have fun in game.

UGHH

[teh_meh]

I guess I just don't understand where you are going with this. Many of us play this game because of it's (even slight at times) resemblence to pen and paper. This race is allowed AND played in PNP with these rulesets. As a matter of fact I know many friends that play WF in PnP. I really Do not see this as an EASY button when WF do have some disadvantages. Especially at lower levels or with inexperienced players when it comes to healing. It took me 4 years to finally build a WF i was really happy with..Need healing amp and the right gear to survive damage as well as some other races. I just see WAY too many other "easy" buttons in this game that far outweigh what the WF advantages may be. And please understand that I am not trying to argue with you. Just speaking my opinion. cheers and have fun in game.

UGHH

Oh, I appreciate your comments Ughh. And I def. want this to remain light-hearted, as was intended. There really is no serious agenda or devious plan on my part. In fact, if the devs weren't killing my mojo with this downtime...I would have been trying to solo Ghosts of Perdition successfully instead. I keep failing miserably during the fourth wave of battle with Cholthultzz...because, ironically, I am getting level drained to death each time

[Glenalth]

Oh, I appreciate your comments Ughh. And I def. want this to remain light-hearted, as was intended. There really is no serious agenda or devious plan on my part. In fact, if the devs weren't killing my mojo with this downtime...I would have been trying to solo Ghosts of Perdition successfully instead. I keep failing miserably during the fourth wave of battle with Cholthultzz...because, ironically, I am getting level drained to death each time

Silver Flame Necklace, Eye of the Beholder

Tell Cholthultzz that he's a jerk and poke him in the eye.

[Erekose]

Oh, I appreciate your comments Ughh. And I def. want this to remain light-hearted, as was intended. There really is no serious agenda or devious plan on my part. In fact, if the devs weren't killing my mojo with this downtime...I would have been trying to solo Ghosts of Perdition successfully instead. I keep failing miserably during the fourth wave of battle with Cholthultzz...because, ironically, I am getting level drained to death each time

roll a WF

[systemstate]

"lich-i-fied dragon that fires CR37 elder beholders from its armpits."

Dude. I would totally pay to see one of these. I might even settle for a well-done sketch, as long as it has an appropriate "Pew Pew Pew" sound effect bubble.

[Glenalth]

The funny bit being is that some of these immunities were just additional resistances when DDO was released. It took a lot of complaining to actually get them fixed.

Even then people didn't want Warforged in their groups. It was the most hilarious racism ever and actually recreated a good feeling of the PnP version as a lot of people wanted nothing to do with them.