Epic Antique Greataxe or Greensteel Min II GA

[Talesin]

Has anyone done a DPS comparison between the Epic Antique Greataxe (with good damage attached) vs. the standard Greensteel Min II Greataxe on a FB III Barbarian?

Most importantly I'd like to know the DPS difference on bosses like Harry or Sulu and against Held (in otherewise auto-crit) epic mobs.

I'd figure all this out myself but I can't make heads or tails out of the DPS calculator.

If it makes a difference my Str is usually hovering around the 58 mark (I expect to be hovering around mid 60's once properly geared up).

Thanks for your help

[Junts]

for bosses, they are pretty much identical

for autocrits, the antique is a little better (base damage being multiplied by 3)

vs mobs that take the acid damage, the min2 can be a little better in general.

If you have the tokens and stuff to do the epic axe, you might as well make it and then craft a lit2 or something instead of a mineral.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

EAG is 2d12+6 19-20/x3 with Force Burst (1d6 +2d10 on crits)
Min2 GA is 3d6+5 19-20/x3 with Holy (2d6)... the Acid doesn't apply against devils which is what you're asking.
Both bypass DR.

Assuming hit on a 2, no Fortification, and a Str of 60 (for a +25 damage)

EAG average 55.025 damage per swing

M2GA average 53.225 damage per swing

The extra damage from Holy helps make up for the lake of base damage on the Min2, but the Force Burst pulls the EAG ahead on crits.
If we were talking an autocrit state on a devil, the EAG would pull ahead even more.
If you fight something that takes damage from acid, I'd imagine the Min2 would pull ahead.

So it's pretty close. The benefit of EAG, if you're capable of making one, is it'll save you Larges on building a Min2.

[Junts]

The disadvantage of the EAG is that, after around +50 to damage or so, falchions are better than greataxes and the margin is increasingly wide .. there is no epic antique falchion.

[Talesin]

Well in this case I already have my Epic Antique Greataxe and a Min II Greataxe (mine is Good Burst, Acid, and Acid Blast). I picked Greataxe primarily because of the fact that I'm a dwarf and I like big numbers (x3 crits instead of x2)

I will be TRing into a WF however so I guess I'll make my next weapon a Lit II Falchion.

[Junts]

Well in this case I already have my Epic Antique Greataxe and a Min II Greataxe (mine is Good Burst, Acid, and Acid Blast). I picked Greataxe primarily because of the fact that I'm a dwarf and I like big numbers (x3 crits instead of x2)

I will be TRing into a WF however so I guess I'll make my next weapon a Lit II Falchion.

if you made a good burst min2, then the ega is clearly better becuase good burst is bad.

[oweieie]

Make both. Make the antique +7 for epics and use the min ii for DR bypass in ToD etc.

[Boldrin]

The disadvantage of the EAG is that, after around +50 to damage or so, falchions are better than greataxes and the margin is increasingly wide .. there is no epic antique falchion.

Xuum it's not a DR bypasser, but it tears things up.

[Junts]

Xuum it's not a DR bypasser, but it tears things up.

Its also far, far harder to make than the ega: i have 2 epic ega and could easily have 4 if I'd taken pieces I didn't need.

I run dq on timer, and I've never even seen a xuum shard. Epic xuum and sos are not a substitute for min2 weaponry the way the greataxe is clearly designed as a bridge item.

[LeLoric]

EAG is 2d12+6 19-20/x3 with Force Burst (1d6 +2d10 on crits)
Min2 GA is 3d6+5 19-20/x3 with Holy (2d6)... the Acid doesn't apply against devils which is what you're asking.
Both bypass DR.

Assuming hit on a 2, no Fortification, and a Str of 60 (for a +25 damage)

EAG average 55.025 damage per swing

M2GA average 53.225 damage per swing

The extra damage from Holy helps make up for the lake of base damage on the Min2, but the Force Burst pulls the EAG ahead on crits.
If we were talking an autocrit state on a devil, the EAG would pull ahead even more.
If you fight something that takes damage from acid, I'd imagine the Min2 would pull ahead.

So it's pretty close. The benefit of EAG, if you're capable of making one, is it'll save you Larges on building a Min2.

You haven't included the slicing on mineral II which would put the min II slightly ahead of the EGA but not by enough to make any sort of substantial difference when acid is resisted. When mobs take all damage from a min II holy/acid burst/acidblast its a 5 point advantage for the min II. If you have the stuff to make the EGA which is not hard to get make it and save your large ingreds for something better.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

You haven't included the slicing on mineral II which would put the min II slightly ahead of the EGA but not by enough to make any sort of substantial difference when acid is resisted. When mobs take all damage from a min II holy/acid burst/acidblast its a 5 point advantage for the min II. If you have the stuff to make the EGA which is not hard to get make it and save your large ingreds for something better.

Ah, right, forgot it had that. I don't have a Min2 built yet (working on it).