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    Default My small list of updates that I think should be added.

    Races: Half Orc, goblin, (kobold?), gnomes and Half Elf
    Classes: Factorium, Artificer, Archivist and druid
    Feats/enhancements: multiclass stuff like the sorc/monk ability in dnd that lets people do fireball punches.
    For the magic punch ability, It could require you to be a arcane caster apart from a wizard and you use say meteor swarm and then a punch at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARcdevil View Post
    Races: Half Orc and Half Elf
    Classes: Artificer, Archivist and druid
    Feats/enhancements: multiclass stuff like the sorc/monk ability in dnd that lets people do fireball punches.
    For the magic punch ability, It could require you to be a arcane caster apart from a wizard and you use say meteor swarm and then a punch at the same time.
    yes to races, only yes to druid, as for the enhancement, no because coding multiclass enhancements it hard, but when its specifically a certain class combo, its already broken because it is unique and only spec'd for 1 type of build

    on the other hand, asorc/monk combo isnt that great unless your a melee hybred (Ex. Tukaw build)
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    I didn't just mean a sorc/monk ability I meant a large variety of abilitys simaler.
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARcdevil View Post
    I didn't just mean a sorc/monk ability I meant a large variety of abilitys simaler.
    Won't happen as you want it to due to how they have the tech. It is unknown yet what Henshin Mystic will be like.

    As for a fire ball type punch, already in the game as a fire fire fire method. Monk already diverges greatly from PnP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missing_Minds View Post
    As for a fire ball type punch, already in the game as a fire fire fire method. Monk already diverges greatly from PnP.
    He's referring to a specific feat that has been occasionally suggested for inclusion in DDO. I've mentioned it myself, although it would be a fairly poor fit given how the game is. Here's a DDO translation:

    Ascetic Mage
    req: Monk1, Sorc3
    You add your Sorcerer level to Monk level for the purpose of bonus AC, and may use the better of your Charisma and Wisdom modifiers for unarmored AC. Activate this feat to make an unarmed attack empowered with arcane magic: the attack adds your caster level to damage, half caster level to attack, and costs 5 spellpoints.

    A feat like that would make more sense if it were included in the same update as the Kalashtar race (which might then rename it to "Tashlatora")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    He's referring to a specific feat that has been occasionally suggested for inclusion in DDO.
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    Feats/enhancements: multiclass stuff like the sorc/monk ability in dnd that lets people do fireball punches.
    I don't see him talking about Ascetic Mage at all as that feat never allowed for fireball punches. Now there were some *really* far out there broken splat books that did.

    I also found that Arcane Strike was more powerful myself, but that is essentially void strike/attacks now.

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    I was also thinking that the punchs could be different elements (is that the right term?) say a water punch and a light punch if your a favoured soul.
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    bump bump bump
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    My wish: No new classes or races until those we have is complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaxeyu View Post
    My wish: No new classes or races until those we have is complete.
    my wish = same.

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    true we do need some bugs fixed. however I do have 1 question, how often does a new class or race come out?
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARcdevil View Post
    true we do need some bugs fixed. however I do have 1 question, how often does a new class or race come out?
    It's been a year since we had the last class added (Favoured Soul). It's been... three years? Three and a half? Since a race was added (drow). However, we're getting Half-Orcs and Half-Elves in Update 7, which should be around in a month or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARcdevil View Post
    Races: Half Orc, goblin, (kobold?), gnomes and Half Elf
    Guess what?? half elf and half orc are already done just waiting for mod 7. As for gnome and goblin???? Well, gnomes dont exist in Eberron so keep on dreaming and last time I checked Goblin was a monster not a race so again dream on

    Quote Originally Posted by ARcdevil View Post
    Classes: Factorium, Artificer, Archivist and druid
    OK for artificer and druid I will agree however only druids will actually make it (eventually). As for the other two I had to actually look them up just to see *** you were talking about.

    The Factorium (The factorium is designed to literally fill in for every missing class type on the spot. It uses a point system to allow the PC to spontaneously perform class abilities or cast arcane spells, essentially allowing him to fill in for a missing or wounded PC of any class.) is almost definatly game breaking so this one gets a HELL NO from me. You could literally take 3 DPS and 3 of these abominations and do everything. No caster no

    The Artificer class would be a great way to make use of all those low lvl wands that every one either gives to their lowbie caster or just vendor trashes. However, the difficulty of make the good parts of the class (dual-wielding wands, etc...) would proably be a nightmare to code correctly so I wouldnt hold my breath for this one.

    The Archivest is just another type of healer. we already got 2 and some people still cant get those right we **** sure dont need a third.

    Quote Originally Posted by ARcdevil View Post
    Feats/enhancements: multiclass stuff like the sorc/monk ability in dnd that lets people do fireball punches.

    For the magic punch ability, It could require you to be a arcane caster apart from a wizard and you use say meteor swarm and then a punch at the same time.
    Seriously???? Make sure you know what your talking about before you post stuff like this. It confuses people who arent familiar with PnP and just makes the rest of us laugh at you
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    Make sure your philosephy does not conflict with your criticism the next time you post.
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jendrak View Post
    gnomes dont exist in Eberron so keep on dreaming and last time I checked Goblin was a monster not a race
    You are wrong on both counts.

    http://eberron.wikia.com/wiki/Inhabitants_of_Eberron

    Quote Originally Posted by Jendrak View Post
    Seriously???? Make sure you know what your talking about before you post stuff like this. It confuses people who arent familiar with PnP and just makes the rest of us laugh at you
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    I personally see a archivist as a combination of favoured soul and wizard.
    where will the devs go after corssbreeds and base classes?
    onto either homebrew or variants which wil break the game.
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARcdevil View Post
    Races: Half Orc, goblin, (kobold?), gnomes and Half Elf
    In, monster soon I hope, I hope not, yes please, and In
    Classes: Factorium, Artificer, Archivist and druid
    Please no, Yes please, what's that again? and being worked
    Feats/enhancements: multiclass stuff like the sorc/monk ability in dnd that lets people do fireball punches.
    I'd like this; something to give MCing an interesting twist. Doubt it'll happen though =(
    Responses in red. I think what you're really looking for on the enhancement/feat section is a sort of Arcane Archer PrE, only for melees. Fun in concept, but I think it'd be about as played as virtuoso, with the spellsword hate that's out there.
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    bump and why not kobod it's not like people can make a pun-pun and break teh game and anyway anyone want a paladin of freedom multiclassed with barb and bard being broken? I certanly dont
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    bump
    If beauty is in the eye of the beholder which eye is that?
    I demand you nerf this post. I was the first person to enter the chronoscope quest on cannith. And died in 10 mins when the whole party finally got in. Profesional Necrobumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jendrak View Post
    Guess what?? half elf and half orc are already done just waiting for mod 7. As for gnome and goblin???? Well, gnomes dont exist in Eberron so keep on dreaming and last time I checked Goblin was a monster not a race so again dream on



    OK for artificer and druid I will agree however only druids will actually make it (eventually). As for the other two I had to actually look them up just to see *** you were talking about.

    The Factorium (The factorium is designed to literally fill in for every missing class type on the spot. It uses a point system to allow the PC to spontaneously perform class abilities or cast arcane spells, essentially allowing him to fill in for a missing or wounded PC of any class.) is almost definatly game breaking so this one gets a HELL NO from me. You could literally take 3 DPS and 3 of these abominations and do everything. No caster no

    The Artificer class would be a great way to make use of all those low lvl wands that every one either gives to their lowbie caster or just vendor trashes. However, the difficulty of make the good parts of the class (dual-wielding wands, etc...) would proably be a nightmare to code correctly so I wouldnt hold my breath for this one.

    The Archivest is just another type of healer. we already got 2 and some people still cant get those right we **** sure dont need a third.



    Seriously???? Make sure you know what your talking about before you post stuff like this. It confuses people who arent familiar with PnP and just makes the rest of us laugh at you
    Gnomes don't exist in Eberron? Hmmm...guess all my source books that state phrases like, "the GNOMES of House Sivis" or "The Gnomes of Korranberg" are wrong. **** WotC putting out false information. Oh wait...they CREATED Eberron. Now House Sivis is basically a bunch of Notary Publics and Librarians so I don't see why adding gnomes to the game would be any good, but people want them for some reason. Personally I'd rather have Shifters and Kalashtar before those pointy-hatted lawn ornaments.

    As for Goblins.....Let's see...the nation of Darguun...Population 800,000 (39% GOBLINS) right out of the Eberron Campaign Settings...Page 152. Nation of Droaam...Population 500,000 (18% Goblins)...No....no goblins in Eberron. And as for being a playable race...you might want to look at Player's Guide to Eberron, page 71 that starts off, "PLAYING A GOBLINOID PC" and on the page it lists Goblins. And in the Eberron Campaign Settings...Page 24..."It is only fitting, then, that hobgoblins, GOBLINS, bugbears, orcs, gnolls and a variety of other creatures commonly viewed as monsters might appear as player characters in an Eberron campaign."

    You told the OP: Seriously???? Make sure you know what your talking about before you post stuff like this. It confuses people who arent familiar with PnP and just makes the rest of us laugh at you

    You should take your own advice.

    Now...to the OP....Races....that could work. Classes....Archivist is more of a scholar than anything. Too boring and no money in it for Turbine. Artificer should wait until we see where the crafting and such is going. Druid was promised a LONG time ago but I'm willing to wait if they get it right. And Factorium...I agree with someone else...game breaker. As for multi-class feats...check into your enhancements first. Alot of that stuff is probably already there.
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