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    Default Hold and Smoke Em 18wiz/2rog/1fvs

    (Title should say 18wiz/2rog plz fix)

    The point of this build is to be able to run into a bunch of monsters, mass hold them, and then firewall them while the melee's whack away. I know in theory it sounds good, but I don't actually know how well it will work once applied. I am aiming it for a shroud farming toon if nothing else.

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    Metal ocolypse
    Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Male
    (2 Rogue \ 18 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 260
    Spell Points: 1306 
    BAB: 10\10\15\20
    Fortitude: 11
    Reflex: 17
    Will: 10
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
    Strength             10                 10                   10
    Dexterity             8                  8                    8
    Constitution         18                 18                   20
    Intelligence         18                 23                   26
    Wisdom                8                  8                    8
    Charisma              8                  8                    8
    
                      Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
    Balance               3                  7                    7
    Bluff                -1                 -1                   -1
    Concentration         6                 28                   28
    Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
    Disable Device        8                 31                   31
    Haggle                3                  3                    3
    Heal                 -1                 -1                   -1
    Hide                  3                  3                    3
    Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
    Jump                  4                  4                    4
    Listen               -1                 -1                   -1
    Move Silently         3                  3                    3
    Open Lock             3                  3                    3
    Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                4                  8                    8
    Search                8                 31                   31
    Spot                  3                  3                    3
    Swim                  0                  0                    0
    Tumble                3                  5.5                  5.5
    Use Magic Device      3                 22                   22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    
    
    Level 2 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 4 (Wizard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 5 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment
    
    
    Level 7 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 8 (Wizard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration
    
    
    Level 10 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 11 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Wizard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
    
    
    Level 13 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    
    
    Level 17 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Heighten Spell
    
    
    Level 18 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction
    
    
    Level 19 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 20 (Wizard)
    Ability Raise: INT
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Wizard Improved Heightening I
    Enhancement: Wizard Improved Maximizing I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
    Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements I
    Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements II
    Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements I
    Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements II
    Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation II
    Enhancement: Wizard Force Manipulation I
    Enhancement: Wizard Force Manipulation II
    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration II
    Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration III
    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
    Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III
    Enhancement: Wizard Subtle Spellcasting I
    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence II
    Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence III
    Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery I
    Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery II
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
    Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
    Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
    Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III
    Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
    Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I
    I figure with the right gear..all that toughness and DR will help a lot for running into the mobs, and on top of that..there isn't a whole lot of enhancements/feats needed for this specific build so I went with it.

    Tell me how crazy I am, and if at all possible, critique the build to work for my idea instead of dogging it to the floor. :3

    HP breakdown
    260=20 Con (from 1 Toughness Feat, WF Con I & II, Racial Toughness 1-3)
    10 (Draconic Vitality)
    60 (+6 Con item)
    45 (Shroud HP item)
    30 (GFL)
    20 (toughness item)
    ---------------------------
    425 HP
    20 (+2 Exc Con)
    20 (+1 Exc Con+ Litany gets to even)
    ----------------------------------------
    465 HP
    40 Yugo pot(15:00) Essence of Desire: +2 CON, +20 HP, -5% melee speed
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    Max 505 HP -- and more with a con tome.

    DR 5/Adamantine

    My biggest question is..the two DR feats I took..would it be better to use toughness in both of those slots for additional HP when running into the mobs, or better yet M.Toughness/Imp M.Toughness for more sp? Or hell..possibly SF: Necro / GSF: Necro for WotB/FoD? A lot of possibilities, and I think it'll end up coming down to preference. Hmm..forgot about Quicken for Reconstruct..meh..I'm open to critique on the feats. :3
    Last edited by Resilian; 08-22-2010 at 05:57 AM.

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    Note to self: Remember to /facepalm when you find out that you do NOT get double SP benefit from items with just one level of FvS. It is calculated based on the number of FvS levels you have total.
    In case you didn't already notice, my posts that end with must NEVER EVER, under any circumstances, be taken seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AyumiAmakusa View Post
    Note to self: Remember to /facepalm when you find out that you do NOT get double SP benefit from items with just one level of FvS. It is calculated based on the number of FvS levels you have total.
    Derp! I knew there was a flaw in that thinking.. Well, is it still a waste for the divine scrolls w/o umd? Or should I just get another level of wizard, and pump in umd? (Figured it'd suck to pump up with an 8 cha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resilian View Post
    Derp! I knew there was a flaw in that thinking.. Well, is it still a waste for the divine scrolls w/o umd? Or should I just get another level of wizard, and pump in umd? (Figured it'd suck to pump up with an 8 cha)
    Also remember to /facepalm when you realise that one level of FvS will not allow you to use all divine scrolls without failure. Advice? Go 18/2 wiz/rog and pump UMD.
    In case you didn't already notice, my posts that end with must NEVER EVER, under any circumstances, be taken seriously.

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    Editing main post. /facepalm

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    firewall in shroud ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossiza View Post
    firewall in shroud ?
    Well I wasn't saying I'd firewall in shroud, just that in most stuff I cold hold and drop some FW's. That said..mass hold monster in shroud is also not always that great. The reason I called it a shroud farmer was because I didn't plan on using it for much else passed norm shroud..ie; no epics, no tod, etc. Though I can definitely say if this build is deemed epic capable, i'd totally go for it.

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