A good monk build?

[Haagon]

hello, i havent played ddo in a while but i decided to get back into it as a monk. right now i just started a 28 pt build which is:

STR: 16
DEX:16
Con 14
int: 8
Wis: 10
cha: 8

now what i basically want is a good DPS monk who also has good survivability. i couldnt decide which was better out of str and dex so i made them both the same. i dont think monks need int or cha so i didnt touch them and i put almost the rest into con to give him decent hp but intead of going 15 con i decided to put a few into wis cuz i know wis is good for monks but i dont know how good so i just got it out of that single digit range. now i know its not the best cuz its only a 28pt but as far as 28pt builds go is this a decent build? and if not what would be a good build that would dish out the best dps without being a squishy little fairy that dies real quick. thank you i appreciate all opinions i just wanna learn to be the best monk i possibly can.

P.S. i dont wanna worry too much about feats and skills right now. for now i just wanna know what the best stats are to start out. thank you.

[Praxian09]

hello, i havent played ddo in a while but i decided to get back into it as a monk. right now i just started a 28 pt build which is:

STR: 16
DEX:16
Con 14
int: 8
Wis: 10
cha: 8

now what i basically want is a good DPS monk who also has good survivability. i couldnt decide which was better out of str and dex so i made them both the same. i dont think monks need int or cha so i didnt touch them and i put almost the rest into con to give him decent hp but intead of going 15 con i decided to put a few into wis cuz i know wis is good for monks but i dont know how good so i just got it out of that single digit range. now i know its not the best cuz its only a 28pt but as far as 28pt builds go is this a decent build? and if not what would be a good build that would dish out the best dps without being a squishy little fairy that dies real quick. thank you i appreciate all opinions i just wanna learn to be the best monk i possibly can.

P.S. i dont wanna worry too much about feats and skills right now. for now i just wanna know what the best stats are to start out. thank you.

That's not bad depending on what you want to do. I personally am a Wis dumper with my monk as it works well with all the monks special abilities that require a saving throw (plus wis gives bonus to AC).

Feats are important to plan on, so they can impact your starter stats. For example, if you plan on being a STR monk who can trip anything, it's good to raise your Int to 13 so you can take the requisites for Improved Tripping later on. Stats will depend on what you want to do with your monk really. From the looks of it, you're primarily a physical monk, so that's not too bad.

If you plan on using your offensive monk abilities, you'll need a higher Wisdom. Aside that, you should be pretty good to go. I would personally drop Str and Dex to 14 and raise Int to 13 and Wis with the rest of the points, but that's my opinion.

Have a great day!

[Syntax42]

Monks are one of those classes that you really should not be trying until you get 32 point builds unlocked. They gain significant benefits from each of 5 stats, making it difficult to obtain a reasonable score in all 5 without 32 points. For comparison, a pure Fighter only needs two stats: strength and con. They gain a moderate benefit from having dex and cha, as well, but don't need those stats to be very high to be effective.

If you want to fix your starting stats, drop str to 14 and put the points into wisdom. The AC and increase to Monk DCs will help.

[Sir_Chonas]

You're going to need lots of tomes to turn that build into a nonsquishy dps monk.

[t0r012]

Aside that, you should be pretty good to go. I would personally drop Str and Dex to 14 and raise Int to 13 and Wis with the rest of the points, but that's my opinion.

Eh with only 28 points I say you need to leave int as a dump stat.
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Now to the OP
with only a 28 pointer I strongly suggest going with a dex/wis finesse build. it makes you life much easier in the stat department. Sure you have to sacrifice but you have to do that with any Monk.
I just think the dex/wis finesse build give up less of what makes monks , monkish and different from the other martial classes.
With a 16 str you get all of what +2 damage compared to a 12 that is truly peanuts sure it is nice to have but you give up a lot for it. I say take the str down to 12 and put your first level up point there to get you 13 to get power attack.

the rest I'd go like this
Halfling
12 str (first level up point here)
16 dex
14 con
8 int
16 wis (rest of your level up points here)
8 chr

the trick being you need to catch a +1 dex tome to finish off the two weapon fighting line and a +2 to qualify for grandmaster wind.

alternately you could go with this (the option I think I prefer)
Halfling again
13 str
18 Dex
12 Con
8 int
14 Wis (all level up points here)
8 Chr

from the get go you can get power attack with 13 str and you are fully qualified for Grand Master Wind and Greater two weapon fighting.
With level ups you will be able to hit GM water as well, but rarely will you ever use it.
Can't say I'm happy with 12 con and would like to say 14 but, with a 28 point build something has to drop and dex and wis help you get the full feel of Monk-ness.

just be sure to take two weapon fighting at level 1 along with a toughness, then at level 2 you "need" to take weapon finesse.

[Syntax42]

Aside that, you should be pretty good to go. I would personally drop Str and Dex to 14 and raise Int to 13 and Wis with the rest of the points, but that's my opinion.

Don't forget, you need 17 dex after tomes to get Improved and Greater Two-Weapon Fighting, which every monk should have. Anything higher than a +2 tome can not be obtained easily, especially for a first character to level. Starting with 16 dex and using a +2 tome also allows you to get the highest tier of Wind Stance.

You're going to need lots of tomes to turn that build into a nonsquishy dps monk.

Do not consider +2 tomes a source of bonus stats. They are not out of reach of most players, mostly because they can be traded. They should be considered an important part of a build, not a method of fixing a weak stat. However, +3 and +4 tomes are extremely rare and could be considered a bonus stat boost, but you can not depend on obtaining one.