help with paladin builds!

[shdwblade]

ok i have a lvl 16 human pally that i really like but is terrible in dps...
im looking for a build that can help me..
all i really need help in are these areas:

1) how to get BAB higher

2) what enhancements (i have 61 action points atm)

3) what stats to pick at beginning with 28 point build

4) what feats to pick (currently using khopeshs, extend spell, oversized TWF, TWF, power attack, toughness, and improved crit: slash

so what i really need help in is getting my dps up and my BAB cause i cant hit anything in lvl 16 quests on elite

so if any1 can help me please let me know

[jmonty]

BAB is set based on your class and level, but your to hit can be self buffed.

check out the paladin spells here if you are not familiar: http://ddowiki.com/page/Category:Paladin_spells

also, a hireling with greater heroism can help alot-- +4 to hit. or you can get heroism pots, which are +2 to hit, but do not stack with gh. also you can get rage pots.

further more, get a + str item and keep it on. +6 should be what you get eventually, but +4 or 5 will get you by and be better than nothing.

also, try a higher + weapon. look for +5s first, then +5 with the effects you want.

[Vynnt]

Take iTWF and gTWF. You are missing 40% offhand procs right there.

[jmonty]

Take iTWF and gTWF. You are missing 40% offhand procs right there.

oh ya, good point.

also, use a light off-hand weapon if you are having trouble hitting. you shouldn't after being buffed up and geared at that level.

what was your starting str and str now?

enhancements are more complicated to explain but i would pick speccing for either knight of the chalice or defender of sibeys and go from there. get divine might as much as you can, even out your cha and take the toughness enhancements.

basically i would say pick whatever enhancements you would like and if you make a mistake they are easy to swap out in a few days.

[Stitch78]

ok i have a lvl 16 human pally that i really like but is terrible in dps...
im looking for a build that can help me..
all i really need help in are these areas:

1) how to get BAB higher

2) what enhancements (i have 61 action points atm)

3) what stats to pick at beginning with 28 point build

4) what feats to pick (currently using khopeshs, extend spell, oversized TWF, TWF, power attack, toughness, and improved crit: slash

so what i really need help in is getting my dps up and my BAB cause i cant hit anything in lvl 16 quests on elite

so if any1 can help me please let me know

To summarize a lot of the advice above, and add a little:

Turn power attack off if you are missing. Hitting without the +5 to damage is better than not hitting.

Make use of your spells. I can't tell you how many pallys (pallies??) seem to not buff themselves. To be effective, paladins need to be clicking something all the time. To get your to-hit number up, make sure you are using Divine Favor before any fight. You can also use Bless, which is a long term buff and should stack with DF. Also, use Divine Might all the time, because you aren't saving those Turn Undeads for anything at all. If you don't have at least a +5 STR enhancement from some piece of gear, go find one. In the meantime, find a Divine Power clicky that gives you at least +5 to STR (plus the temporary hit points).

Also, use Zeal, which (if you aren't missing all the time) should significantly boost your DPS.

Finally, a +5 nothingspecial weapon will do more damage than a +1 superbursetofeverything weapon if you only roll Misses with your uber +1. And plain old +5 weps are cheap.

[unbongwah]

If you're a pure paladin, you can't boost your BAB any higher than it already is. So you need to find other ways of boosting your to-hit:

• Max your STR with lvl-ups, items, tomes, potions, etc.
• Party up with a bard; their Inspire Courage song will provide a nice bonus to to-hit & dmg
• Switch off PA
• Use weapons with max +to-hit
• Switch to 2H weapon vs really high AC foes for extra +2 to-hit
• Stand still when attacking; you're taking an extra -4 to-hit if you run `n swipe

[shdwblade]

thx guys! i cant remem what my str is right now i thik its 26 -29 and also if i would want to switch feats for iTWF should i change pa cause im still hitting around 15-27s without pa

also i havent used any tomes cause i havent found any and i dont have enough money to get even a +2 tome to anything, i used to have a tome that i used that gave me +2 to everything then i lesser reincarnated with a lesser druidic heart of wood so i lost all tome usage..

[flynnjsw]

thx guys! i cant remem what my str is right now i thik its 26 -29 and also if i would want to switch feats for iTWF should i change pa cause im still hitting around 15-27s without pa

also i havent used any tomes cause i havent found any and i dont have enough money to get even a +2 tome to anything, i used to have a tome that i used that gave me +2 to everything then i lesser reincarnated with a lesser druidic heart of wood so i lost all tome usage..

If you lesser reincarnated then you did not lose your Tome. Only when you True Reincarnate do you lose your tomes.

Also, make use of your Divine Favor spell. It gives you bonuses to hit as well.

[shdwblade]

also i have +5 to everything on all my items except wisdom which is + 3

and my wepeons are +5 holy green steel khopesh working on tier 2 to become mineral 2 khopesh and a +5 axiomotic burst khopesh of everbright and i think a +3 anarchic burst khopesh of something

anarchich- portals sometimes demons and devils and **** and also PvP

axiomotic- nearly everything

green steel- no matter what wield

so thats my wepeons right now

[shdwblade]

so practically if i want better to-hit bonuses i should take of extend spell before every battle and use divine favor and/or zeal?

ive only used zeal, divine favor, prayer and angel skin for final boss battles and minibosses and stuff in that area

[flynnjsw]

If you are a Paladin, why are you building a Min2? As a Paladin, your Holy Sword spell already breaks Harry/Suluu/Horoth DR. You would be better off doing a Lit2 for trash and using Holy Sword for the raid bosses.

[flynnjsw]

so practically if i want better to-hit bonuses i should take of extend spell before every battle and use divine favor and/or zeal?

ive only used zeal, divine favor, prayer and angel skin for final boss battles and minibosses and stuff in that area

For me its making sure I have extended Zeal, Angel Skin, and Divine Favor. Then it's making sure I don't run out of Divine Might, and spamming Divine Sacrifice and Exalted Smite.

[shdwblade]

i dont like holy sword mainly because i have to stock on anointed khopeshes and those cost money and also they dont stack so its anoying to carry em around and also holy sword crushes most damage reductions but only comes with holy burst and i like mineral 2 cause it passes through some damage reductions and has WAY more wepeon additions

also what spells should i use?

right now:
lvl1-bless,virtue, and divine favor
lvl2- remove paralysis, angelskin, and resist energy
lvl3- cure mod and prayer
lvl4- death ward and zeal

[shdwblade]

i only have 332 hp and sp so using res enefrgy about 3 ill use 75 sp and death ward uses up another 35 sp and using zeal divine favor and angelskin will take up another 80 and all together that will add together to 190 wich will leave another 142 which means i can cast all 3 with extend about once and without for another like 3

[shdwblade]

http://my.ddo.com/character/argonnessen/drkblde/

thats my character

[ColinQ]

i only have 332 hp and sp so using res enefrgy about 3 ill use 75 sp and death ward uses up another 35 sp and using zeal divine favor and angelskin will take up another 80 and all together that will add together to 190 wich will leave another 142 which means i can cast all 3 with extend about once and without for another like 3

Equip a mage/wizary items with you at beginning of the quest (before shrine), then switch to your normal gear after bluffing
Also, consider farming tangleroot for deathward clicky

[shdwblade]

this is final post of today :P

equiping mage item at begging and after wont help...cause once im done with the PoP VII and take it off if i havent used 70 points of sp my sp will go down so i should just leave it on..

and also is PA really nesecarry for TWFs for dps?

cause i might switch it to iTWF and at lvl 18 get gTWF

[Stitch78]

i dont like holy sword mainly because i have to stock on anointed khopeshes and those cost money and also they dont stack so its anoying to carry em around

I generally have an alt mail me three or four, which then hang out in my mailbox until I need em. Saves inventory space. (Why why why can't I get a portable hole to drop???)

[Happosaai]

this is final post of today :P

equiping mage item at begging and after wont help...cause once im done with the PoP VII and take it off if i havent used 70 points of sp my sp will go down so i should just leave it on..

and also is PA really nesecarry for TWFs for dps?

cause i might switch it to iTWF and at lvl 18 get gTWF

The mage item increases your max SP. When you take it off your max SP drops back down to norma. You will only be down SP if you used more than what the mage item gave you. Generally, the mage items are used for adventure start buffing and then replaced with something more useful for your class, such as the voice of the master if you are not capped yet :-)

[flynnjsw]

I generally have an alt mail me three or four, which then hang out in my mailbox until I need em. Saves inventory space. (Why why why can't I get a portable hole to drop???)

If you are on Kyhber, PM me character name and I might be able to hook you up.