Mass Curing - Some Numbers

[Feylina]

couldn't sleep last night so i wanted to put down some numbers to find out the best usage of metamagics, with appropriate gear, in regards to healing.

I basically wanted something concrete to look at in regards to a cleric healbot, fvs healbot and occ fvs (without emp healing). I was actually a little surprised at what i found to be the more efficient uses of sp in regards to metamagics.

Bear in mind there's no point in running the metamagics for Heal / Mass heal as it's either have or have not with emp heal.

Feel free to correct any of my math or assumptions in regards to items / enhancements.

Note: didn't feel like running the numbers for the abbott staff as i was thinking more along the lines of the main hand scroll healer. wonder if the staff would change the numbers but too tired to care. Also wondering if the warchanter set (-4 maximize) stacks with the gloves of the glacier. If it did it would bring maximize for fvs (alone) more in line with the other metamagics.


Formula:

For the below calculations i'm actually only showing B/C to get the numbers i'm looking for. I left A in the equation as it was useful in determining HP / SP after the fact or comparing Less efficient but higher heal amount (in a less amount of time) metamagic combinations.

AB/C

A = Spell HP Gain (averaged)
B = Multiplier (ie base + enhancements + items)
C = Spell Points


Spell Hp Averages

Clw Mass = 1d8 + 20 = 24.5
Cmw Mass = 2d8 + 20 = 29
Csw Mass = 3d8 + 20 = 33.5
Ccw Mass = 4d8 + 20 = 38


Multipliers

Assumes turbines calculation of multiplier = Base (1) + Enhancement + Metamagic

Base = 1
Enhancements = .4
Empower Heal = .5
Empower = .5
Maximize = 1

Note: Did seperate calculations for Base (no modifier), +50% (Potency, Efficacy, Devotion), +75% (Superior Ardor VIII belt)


Spell Points

Pretty basic, base sp cost + (metamagic amount - equipment / enhancement modifiers)


Metamagics and Modifiers

Empower Heal (10 base sp)
-4 sp from Cleric enhancements
-2 sp fro Lorrik's Necklace, Epic Bejeweled Letter Opener

Empower (base 15 sp)
-6 sp from Fvs enhancements
-2 sp from Ring of Thelis, Skiver

Maximize (base 25 sp)
-4 sp from Gloves of the Glacier

Note: there are a few other items that give bonuses to these but they are either lower level than those shown or not worth the effort (read abbot necky :P)


My biggest concern atm is that i was overtired and missed something obvious. thought i was pretty thorough but i could have messed it up. that's why i posting it here .

[Feylina]

Cure Light Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)

Didn't do base amount as i assume everyone has access to a devotion / potency VI

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.4a / 30 + 4 sp = 2.4a / 34sp = .071a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower Clw mass
2.9a / 30 + 4 + 13 sp = 2.9a / 47sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 55sp = .062a/sp
Empower
2.4 / 30 + 13 sp = 2.4 / 43sp = .56a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 64sp = .053a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 30 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 51 sp = .057a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 30 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 68sp = .057a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.4a / 30 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 38sp = .063a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.9a / 30 + 7 + 8 sp = 2.9a / 45sp = .064a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 59sp = .058a/sp
Empower
2.4a / 30 + 7 sp = 2.4a / 37sp = .065a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 58sp = .059a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 30 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 51sp = .057a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 30 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 66sp = .059a/sp


Cure Light Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.65a / 30 + 4 sp = 2.65a / 34sp = .078a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 30 + 4 + 13 sp = 3.15a / 47sp = .067a/sp

Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 55sp = .066a/sp
Empower
2.65 / 30 + 13 sp = 2.65 / 43sp = .62a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 64sp = .057a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 30 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 51 sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 30 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 68sp = .061a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.65a / 30 + 8 sp = 2.65a / 38sp = .070a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 30 + 7 + 8 sp = 3.15a / 45sp = .070a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 59sp = .062a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 30 + 7 sp = 2.65a / 37sp = .072a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 58sp = .063a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 30 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 51sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 30 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 66sp = .063a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (Bass +0%)

Cleric

Empower Healing
1.9a / 35 + 4 sp = 1.9a / 39sp = .049a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 35 + 4 + 13 sp = 2.4a / 47sp = .051a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 4 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 60sp = .048a/sp
Empower
1.9 / 35 + 13 = 1.9 / 48sp = 0.40a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 13 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 69sp = .042a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 35 + 21 sp = 2.4a / 56sp = .043 sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 73sp = .047a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
1.9a / 35 + 8 sp = 1.9a / 43sp = .044a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 35 + 7 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 50sp = .048a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 8 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 64sp = .045a/sp
Empower
1.9a / 35 + 7 sp = 1.9a / 42sp = .045a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 7 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 63sp = .046a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 35 + 21 sp = 2.4a / 56sp = .043a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 71sp = .048a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.4a / 35 + 4 sp = 2.4a / 39sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.9a / 35 + 4 + 13 sp = 2.9a / 52sp = .056a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 60sp = .057a/sp
Empower
2.4 / 35 + 13 sp = 2.4 / 48sp = .50a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 69sp = .049a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 56 sp = .052a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 35 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 72sp = .054a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.4a / 35 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 43sp = .056a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.9a / 35 + 7 + 8 sp = 2.9a / 50sp = .058a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 64sp = .053a/sp
Empower
2.4a / 35 + 7 sp = 2.4a / 42sp = .057a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 63sp = .054a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 56sp = .052a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 35 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 71sp = .055a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.65a / 35 + 4 sp = 2.65a / 39sp = .068a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 35 + 4 + 13 sp = 3.15a / 52sp = .061a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 60sp = .061a/sp
Empower
2.65 / 35 + 13 sp = 2.65 / 48sp = .55a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 69sp = .053a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 35 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 56 sp = .056a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 35 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 73sp = .057a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.65a / 35 + 8 sp = 2.65a / 43sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 35 + 7 + 8 sp = 3.15a / 50sp = .063a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 64sp = .057a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 35 + 7 sp = 2.65a / 42sp = .063a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 63sp = .058a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 35 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 56sp = .056a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 35 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 71sp = .058a/sp


Cure Serious Wounds Mass (Bass +0%)

Cleric

Empower Healing
1.9a / 40 + 4 sp = 1.9a / 44sp = .043a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 40 + 4 + 13 sp = 2.4a / 57sp = .042a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 40 + 4 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 65sp = .045a/sp
Empower
1.9 / 40 + 13 = 1.9 / 53sp = 0.36a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 40 + 13 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 74sp = .039a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 40 + 21 sp = 2.4a / 61sp = .039 sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 40 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 78sp = .044a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
1.9a / 40 + 8 sp = 1.9a / 48sp = .040a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 40 + 7 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 55sp = .044a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 40 + 8 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 69sp = .042a/sp
Empower
1.9a / 40 + 7 sp = 1.9a / 47sp = .040a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 40 + 7 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 68sp = .043a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 40 + 21 sp = 2.4a / 61sp = .039a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 40 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 76sp = .045a/sp


Cure Serious Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.4a / 40 + 4 sp = 2.4a / 44sp = .055a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.9a / 40 + 4 + 13 sp = 2.9a / 57sp = .051a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 40 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 65sp = .052a/sp
Empower
2.4 / 40 + 13 sp = 2.4a / 53sp = .45a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 40 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 74sp = .046a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 40 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 61sp = .048a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 40 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 77sp = .051a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.4a / 40 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 48sp = .050a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.9a / 40 + 7 + 8 sp = 2.9a / 55sp = .053a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 40 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 69sp = .049a/sp
Empower
2.4a / 40 + 7 sp = 2.4a / 47sp = .051a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 40 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 68sp = .050a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 40 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 61sp = .048a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 40 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 76sp = .051a/sp


Cure Serious Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.65a / 40 + 4 sp = 2.65a / 44sp = .060a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 40 + 4 + 13 sp = 3.15a / 57sp = .055a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 40 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 65sp = .056a/sp
Empower csw mass
2.65 / 40 + 13 sp = 2.65 / 53sp = .50a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 40 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 74sp = .049a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 40 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 61 sp = .052a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 40 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 78sp = .053a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.65a / 40 + 8 sp = 2.65a / 48sp = .055a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 40 + 7 + 8 sp = 3.15a / 55sp = .057a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 40 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 69sp = .053a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 40 + 7 sp = 2.65a / 47sp = .056a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 40 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 68sp = .054a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 40 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 61sp = .052a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 40 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 76sp = .055a/sp


Cure Critical Wounds Mass (Bass +0%)

Cleric

Empower Healing
1.9a / 45 + 4 sp = 1.9a / 49sp = .039a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 45 + 4 + 13 sp = 2.4a / 62sp = .039a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 45 + 4 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 70sp = .041a/sp
Empower
1.9 / 45 + 13 = 1.9 / 58sp = 0.32a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 45 + 13 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 79sp = .037a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 45 + 21 sp = 2.4a / 66sp = .036 sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 45 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 83sp = .041a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
1.9a / 45 + 8 sp = 1.9a / 53sp = .039a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 45 + 7 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 60sp = .040a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 45 + 8 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 74sp = .039a/sp
Empower
1.9a / 45 + 7 sp = 1.9a / 52sp = .037a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 45 + 7 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 73sp = .040a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 45 + 21 sp = 2.4a / 66sp = .036a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 45 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 81sp = .042a/sp


Cure Critical Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.4a / 45 + 4 sp = 2.4a / 49sp = .049a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.9a / 45 + 4 + 13 sp = 2.9a / 62sp = .047a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 45 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 70sp = .049a/sp
Empower
2.4 / 45 + 13 sp = 2.4a / 58sp = .41a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 45 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 79sp = .043a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 45 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 66sp = .044a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 45 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 82sp = .048a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.4a / 45 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 53sp = .045a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.9a / 45 + 7 + 8 sp = 2.9a / 60sp = .048a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 45 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 74sp = .046a/sp
Empower
2.4a / 45 + 7 sp = 2.4a / 52sp = .046a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 45 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 73sp = .047a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 45 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 66sp = .044a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 45 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 81sp = .048a/sp


Cure Critical Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)

Cleric

Empower Healing
2.65a / 45 + 4 sp = 2.65a / 49sp = .054a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 45 + 4 + 13 sp = 3.15a / 62sp = .051a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 45 + 4 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 70sp = .052a/sp
Empower
2.65 / 45 + 13 sp = 2.65 / 58sp = .46a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 45 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 79sp = .046a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 45 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 66sp = .048a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 45 + 4 + 13 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 83sp = .050a/sp

Fvs

Empower Healing
2.65a / 45 + 8 sp = 2.65a / 53sp = .049a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 45 + 7 + 8 sp = 3.15a / 60sp = .052a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 45 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 74sp = .049a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 45 + 7 sp = 2.65a / 52sp = .051a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 45 + 7 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 73sp = .050a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 45 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 66sp = .048a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 45 + 8 + 7 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 81sp = .051a/sp

[Feylina]

What I Showed You

Basically the calculations will show you how metamagics and spell points relate to each other by comparing the multiplier to the spell point cost.

eg. Empower Healing (+75% ardor)
2.65a / 45 + 4 sp = 2.65a / 49sp = .054a/sp

This shows that your spell hits for 265% at a cost of 49 spell points. showing that in terms of sp usage you are gaining 5.4% more hp per spell point spent.


Best SP usage?

Here i just took the top 3 metamagic combinations per spell and from that info i decided what combo worked well or not. Some combinations were equal with certain spells i seperated those that were equal with "and". Those seperated by a comma read left to right as best to worst of the 3.

Cleric
-Clw (+50%) = Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Empower, Empower Healing + Maximize
-Clw (+75%) = Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Empower, Empower Healing + Maximize
-cmw (base) = Empower Healing + Empower, Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Maximize
-cmw (+50%) = Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Maximize, Empower Healing + Empower
-cmw (+75%) = Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Empower and Empower Healing + Maximize
-csw (base) = Empower Healing + Maximize, Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Empower
-csw (+50%) = Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Maximize, Empower Healing + Empower and Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
-csw (+75%) = Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Maximize, Empower Healing + Empower
-ccw (base) = Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize and Empower Healing + Maximize, Empower Healing and Empower Healing + Empower
-ccw (+50%) = Empower Healing and Empower Healing + Maximize, Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
-ccw (+75%) = Empower Healing, Empower Healing + Maximize, Empower Healing + Empower

Best Bang for your buck = Empower Healing
Most cost efficient "Extra Healing" = Empower Healing + Maximize


Fvs
-Clw (+50%) = Empower, Empower Healing + Empower, Empower Healing
-Clw (+75%) = Empower, Empower Healing + Empower and Empower Healing
-cmw (base) = Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize and Empower Healing + Empower, Empower + Maximize
-cmw (+50%) = Empower Healing + Empower, Empower, Empower Healing
-cmw (+75%) = Empower Healing + Empower and Empower, Empower Healing
-csw (base) = Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize, Empower Healing + Empower, Empower + Maximize
-csw (+50%) = Empower Healing + Empower, Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize, Empower
-csw (+75%) = Empower Healing + Empower, Empower, Empower Healing and Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
-ccw (base) = Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize, Empower + Maximize, Empower Healing and Empower
-ccw (+50%) = Empower Healing + Empower and Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize, Empower + Maximize
-ccw (+75%) = Empower Healing + Empower, Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize, Empower

Best overall = Empower Healing + Empower
If Empower Heal not available = Empower + Maximize


What's The Point?

With all the calculations laid out like that, per spell, i could easily see how effective my metamagic combinations really were for healing. Some things i already knew, ie empower healing on a cleric = best sp usage (no brainer) but i did learn some other things. Mostly, on my favored soul (the one without empower healing) i learned that empower and maximize is actually more efficient than maximize alone. Empower goes a long way in itself but lately i've found empower or empower heal by themselves don't hit hard enough. Thus all the research .


Comparisons

Other things i've done is input the average hp amount for the spells and compared some of the combinations. For example i compared hp/sp on a cleric using only empower healing and then empower healing + maximize. yes the spell hit harder but for what cost

All i had to do was take the end result of the formula and pop back in the average hp amount of the spell

cleric Empower

Clw mass = 24.5 * .078 = 1.91 hp/sp
cmw mass = 29 * .068 = 1.97 hp/sp
csw mass = 33.5 * .060 = 2.01 hp/sp
ccw mass = 38 * .054 = 2.05 hp/sp

cleric Empower + Maximize (comparing Empower vs. Empower + Maximize)

Then i did the same thing for another combination, divided these by the previous set of numbers (the ones for empower) and had a nice percent to gauge how much less efficient this metamagic set was.

Clw mass = .066 * 24.5 = 1.617 (-15% efficiency)
cmw mass = .061 * 29 = 1.769 (-10% efficiency)
csw mass = .056 * 33.5 = 1.876 (-7% efficiency)
ccw mass = .052 * 38 = 1.976 (-4% efficiency)


Other Useful Bits

One of the things that struck me was what a difference not using your amrath clicky, or some other item(sup dev viii, sup efficacy viii clicky), made to your spell efficiency. Definately a case to keep an eye on those clickys. Drinking potions sux.


Well i think that's it for now. tons of other useful info you can get from these calcs.
Bear in mind that there are other factors that affect healing but i think these calculations cover enough of them to be useful. At least they were useful to me. Enjoy or not. My biggest fear is that the length of the post will deter readers. ah well at least i'll have this info on hand for when the guild website goes up or as a reference for interested parties .

[azrael4h]

Thumbs up for the work. It's interesting to see the hard numbers on this.

[kaleid0star]

could you do an analysis on heal specced bards?

[Feylina]

Bard would be pretty basic i'm assuming. +40% healing from enhancements and no improved metamagic enhancements. So just use the base metamagic numbers minus the gear bonuses and apply that to the 2 mass spells they get.

Also i'd compare spellsinger song vs non spell singer.


Cure Light Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)

Empower Healing
2.4a / 30 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 38sp = .063a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower Clw mass
2.9a / 30 + 8 + 13 sp = 2.9a / 51sp = .057a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 59sp = .058a/sp
Empower
2.4 / 30 + 13 sp = 2.4 / 43sp = .56a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 64sp = .053a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 30 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 51 sp = .057a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 30 + 8 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 72sp = .054a/sp


Cure Light Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)

Empower Healing
2.65a / 30 + 8 sp = 2.65a / 38sp = .070a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 30 + 8 + 13 sp = 3.15a / 51sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 59sp = .062a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 30 + 13 sp = 2.65a / 43sp = .062a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 64sp = .057a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 30 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 51sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 30 + 8 + 13 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 72sp = .058a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (Bass +0%)

Empower Healing
1.9a / 35 + 8 sp = 1.9a / 43sp = .044a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 35 + 8 + 13 sp = 2.4a / 56sp = .042a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 8 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 64sp = .045a/sp
Empower
1.9a / 35 + 13 sp = 1.9a / 48sp = .040a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 13 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 69sp = .042a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 35 + 21 sp = 2.4a / 56sp = .043a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 8 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 77sp = .044a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)

Empower Healing
2.4a / 35 + 8 sp = 2.4a / 43sp = .056a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower Clw mass
2.9a / 35 + 8 + 13 sp = 2.9a / 56sp = .052a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 64sp = .053a/sp
Empower
2.4a / 35 + 13 sp = 2.4 / 48sp = .50a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.4a / 69sp = .049a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 21 sp = 2.9a / 56 sp = .052a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 35 + 8 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.9a / 77sp = .051a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)

Empower Healing
2.65a / 35 + 8 sp = 2.65a / 43sp = .062a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 35 + 8 + 13 sp = 3.15a / 56sp = .056a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 8 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 64sp = .057a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 35 + 13 sp = 2.65a / 48sp = .055a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 13 + 21 sp = 3.65a / 69sp = .053a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 35 + 21 sp = 3.15a / 56sp = .056a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 35 + 8 + 13 + 21 sp = 4.15a / 77sp = .054a/sp



Cure Light Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)(-10% spellsong)

Empower Healing
2.4a / 30 + 8 - 3 sp = 2.4a / 35sp = .069a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower Clw mass
2.9a / 30 + 8 + 13 - 3 sp = 2.9a / 48sp = .060a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 8 + 21 - 3 sp = 3.4a / 56sp = .061a/sp
Empower
2.4 / 30 + 13 - 3 sp = 2.4 / 40sp = .60a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 30 + 13 + 21 - 3 sp = 3.4a / 61sp = .056a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 30 + 21 - 3 sp = 2.9a / 48 sp = .060a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 30 + 8 + 13 + 21 - 3 sp = 3.9a / 74sp = .053a/sp


Cure Light Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)(-10% spellsong)

Empower Healing
2.65a / 30 + 8 - 3 sp = 2.65a / 35sp = .076a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 30 + 8 + 13 - 3 sp = 3.15a / 48sp = .066a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 8 + 21 - 3 sp = 3.65a / 56sp = .065a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 30 + 13 - 3 sp = 2.65a / 40sp = .066a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 30 + 13 + 21 - 3 sp = 3.65a / 61sp = .060a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 30 + 21 - 3 sp = 3.15a / 48sp = .066a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 30 + 8 + 13 + 21 - 3 sp = 4.15a / 74sp = .056a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (Bass +0%)(-10% spellsong)

Empower Healing
1.9a / 35 + 8 -3.5 sp = 1.9a / 39.5sp = .048a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
2.4a / 35 + 8 + 13 - 3.5 sp = 2.4a / 52.5sp = .046a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 8 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 2.9a / 60.5sp = .048a/sp
Empower
1.9a / 35 + 13 - 3.5 sp = 1.9a / 44.5sp = .043a/sp
Empower + Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 13 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 2.9a / 65.5sp = .044a/sp
Maximize
2.4a / 35 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 2.4a / 52.5sp = .046a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 8 + 13 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 3.4a / 73.5sp = .046a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (+50% Potency, Devotion, Efficacy)(-10% spellsong)

Empower Healing
2.4a / 35 + 8 - 3.5 sp = 2.4a / 39.5sp = .061a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower Clw mass
2.9a / 35 + 8 + 13 - 3.5 sp = 2.9a / 52.5sp = .055a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 8 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 3.4a / 60.5sp = .056a/sp
Empower
2.4a / 35 + 13 - 3.5 sp = 2.4 / 44.5sp = .54a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.4a / 35 + 13 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 3.4a / 65.5sp = .052a/sp
Maximize
2.9a / 35 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 2.9a / 52.5 sp = .055a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
3.9a / 35 + 8 + 13 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 3.9a / 73.5sp = .053a/sp


Cure Moderate Wounds Mass (+75% Superior Ardor VIII)(-10% spellsong)

Empower Healing
2.65a / 35 + 8 - 3.5 sp = 2.65a / 39.5sp = .067a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower
3.15a / 35 + 8 + 13 - 3.5 sp = 3.15a / 52.5sp = .060a/sp
Empower Healing + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 8 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 3.65a / 60.5sp = .060a/sp
Empower
2.65a / 35 + 13 - 3.5 sp = 2.65a / 44.5sp = .060a/sp
Empower + Maximize
3.65a / 35 + 13 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 3.65a / 65.5sp = .056a/sp
Maximize
3.15a / 35 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 3.15a / 52.5sp = .060a/sp
Empower Healing + Empower + Maximize
4.15a / 35 + 8 + 13 + 21 - 3.5 sp = 4.15a / 73.5sp = .056a/sp

Note: Don't know if turbine rounds up or down for spellsinger. Worked with a decimal and will hope that's close enough.

Assuming my math is correct. what a difference in heals for empower healing spellsinger.