Radiant Warrior: Greater Two Handed Fighting Cleric 18 (Radiant Servant II)/Fighter 2

[Delar303]

Radiant Warrior: Greater Two Handed Fighting Cleric 18 (Radiant Servant II)/Fighter 2

AKA The Radiant Warrior

My goal was to build a battle cleric that would have healing with a decent amount of melee DPS when needed. I chose two handed fighting (Strength 15+), improved two handed fighting (requires Strength 17+, base attack bonus of +6) and greater two handed fighting (Base attack bonus of +11) feats as soon as they were available because they would be most useful earlier in the build.

Class Leveling: Battle Cleric 18 (Radiant Servant II) / Fighter 2
1) Fighter: For Toughness and Two Handed Fighting
2-7) Cleric: Radiant Servant I
8) Fighter: Improved Two Handed Fighting
9-20) Cleric: Radiant Servant II

This unfortunately delays getting blade barrier till level 13 but it makes level up easier due to more melee DPS ability.

32-point starting abilities are:
Strength: 15
Dexterity: 8
Constitution: 16
Intellect: 10
Wisdom: 16
Charisma: 12

All five level up bonuses went into +5 wisdom. If you want Improved Two Handed Fighting at level 8 you need to use a +2 to strength tome at level 7 or use two of your ability score level up bonuses (Level 4 & 8) to strength.

Feats Selected:
1) Toughness & Two Handed Fighting (Fighter Bonus)
3) Extend Spell
6) Empower Healing Spell
8) Improved Two Handed Fighting (Fighter Bonus)
9) Maximize Spell
12) Quicken Spell
15) Greater Two Handed Fighting
18) Heighten Spell

Enhancements:

Level 1-7: Focused on getting pre-reqs for Radiant Servant I & Melee DPS bonuses
Radiant Servant I
Cleric Radiant Servant I
Dwarven Axe Attack I
Dwarven Axe Damage I
Dwarven Axe Damage II
Dwarven Constitution I
Dwarven Faith I
Racial Toughness I
Cleric Heal I
Cleric Heal II
Cleric Life Magic I
Cleric Life Magic II
Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Cleric Wisdom I
Fighter Toughness I
Cleric Divine Vitality I
Cleric Improved Turning I

Level 8-14: Focused on getting pre-reqs for Radiant Servant II
Radiant Servant II
Cleric Radiant Servant II
Dwarven Axe Attack II
Dwarven Faith II
Racial Toughness II
Cleric Prayer of Life I
Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Cleric Charisma I
Cleric Charisma II
Fighter Strength I
Cleric Wisdom II

Level 15-20:
Dwarven Constitution II
Cleric Life Magic III
Cleric Life Magic IV
Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Cleric Wisdom III

Comments, suggestions, ideas? Did I miss something? Thanks!

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Lidhell 
Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(2 Fighter \ 18 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 336
Spell Points: 1366 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 6
Will: 19

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 17                   18
Dexterity             8                 10                   10
Constitution         16                 18                   20
Intelligence         10                 12                   12
Wisdom               16                 23                   26
Charisma             12                 14                   16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 8

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               0.5               11                   15
Bluff                 1                  3                    3
Concentration         3                 28                   28
Diplomacy             1                  3                    3
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                1                  3                    3
Heal                  3                  8                   10
Hide                 -1                  0                    0
Intimidate            1                  3                    3
Jump                  6                 14                   14
Listen                3                  8                    8
Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                  1                    1
Search                0                  1                    3
Spot                  3                  8                    8
Swim                  2                  4                    4
Tumble               -0.5                0.5                  0.5
Use Magic Device      n/a               n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1.5)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Trip

Level 2 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bane
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cause Fear
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Doom
Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Summon Monster I

Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Close Wounds
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Find Traps
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (2): Sonic Blast
Spell (2): Spawn Screen
Spell (2): Summon Monster II

Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)

Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Spell (3): Bestow Curse
Spell (3): Blindness
Spell (3): Contagion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (3): Water Breathing

Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I

Level 8 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting

Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (4): Chaos Hammer
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (4): Dismissal
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Order's Wrath
Spell (4): Panacea
Spell (4): Poison
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Spell (4): Symbol of Flame
Spell (4): Unholy Blight

Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)

Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (5): Greater Command
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Spell (5): Slay Living
Spell (5): Spell Resistance
Spell (5): Stalwart Pact
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): True Seeing

Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (6): Banishment
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (6): Create Undead
Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic
Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding
Spell (6): Harm
Spell (6): Heal
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Spell (6): Mass Bear's Endurance
Spell (6): Mass Bull's Strength
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Eagle's Spendor
Spell (6): Mass Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Owl's Wisdom
Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
Spell (6): Symbol of Fear
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (6): Undead to Death
Spell (6): Word of Recall

Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II

Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Spell (7): Destruction
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance
Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass
Spell (7): Resurrection
Spell (7): Summon Monster VII
Spell (7): Symbol of Stunning
Spell (7): Symbol of Weakness

Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)

Level 17 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Spell (8): Death Pact
Spell (8): Firestorm
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward
Spell (8): Mass Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (8): Summon Monster VIII
Spell (8): Symbol of Death

Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell

Level 19 (Cleric)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Spell (9): Energy Drain
Spell (9): Implosion
Spell (9): Mass Heal
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Spell (9): True Resurrection

Level 20 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III

[FlyingTurtle]

Why Fighter 1? I thought Cleric 1 would give you better bang for your skillpoints in terms of relevant class skills. Also, no Power Attack?

(not criticisms, these are honest questions about the rationale).

EDIT: I see, no PA because it's WIS based. Basically a melee-capable rather than a melee-focused build. Ok.

[biggin]

Solid looking build. Personally I would drop Heighten and go for Mental Toughness, but that's a playstyle choice. Looks like fun.

[Renvar]

Clerics and fighters both get the same skill points at 1st level and both are terrible. No benefit there either way at all.

The feat heighten is a waste. Losing two levels and starting with a weaker wisdom is going to give you a -3 to your DC's already. And there's no point in being a melee focused axe wielding cleric without IC: Slash. YOu are just going to get mediocrity with both. You have to accept that you will not be an offensive caster. Just healing and melee. You can cometfall and bb and searing light, but you don't need heighten or spell pen for those.

On the enhancements:

Only two racial toughnesses? HP are so critical with a meleeing build whose class has no toughness benefits.
Drop the spell pen. As stated worthless.

[Delar303]

Why Fighter 1? I thought Cleric 1 would give you better bang for your skillpoints in terms of relevant class skills. Also, no Power Attack?

(not criticisms, these are honest questions about the rationale).

EDIT: I see, no PA because it's WIS based. Basically a melee-capable rather than a melee-focused build. Ok.

Starting with fighter or cleric I didn't really see much difference. I only planned on skilling up Concentration from cleric. Fighter only has Jump which really isn't much. I guess I could start with cleric first... Wasn't sure if Diplomacy would be useful in the end game or not... Should I invest points in Diplomacy?

Clerics:
Skill points at 1st level: (2 + Intelligence modifier) x4
Concentration (Con)
Diplomacy (Cha)
Heal (Wis)

Fighter:
Skill points at 1st level: (2 + Intelligence modifier) x4
Intimidate (Cha)
Jump (Str)
Repair (Int)
Swim (Str)

I didn't take Power Attack because my base attack bonus was lower due to being mostly a cleric, leveling bonuses went into wisdom and taking a -5 to hit penalty didn't sound as good as getting more procing glancing blows. Typically if I could expect tons of group buffs that would increase my hit, I would most likely be more focused towards healing the group than melee DPS.

[Delar303]

Clerics and fighters both get the same skill points at 1st level and both are terrible. No benefit there either way at all.

The feat heighten is a waste. Losing two levels and starting with a weaker wisdom is going to give you a -3 to your DC's already. And there's no point in being a melee focused axe wielding cleric without IC: Slash. YOu are just going to get mediocrity with both. You have to accept that you will not be an offensive caster. Just healing and melee. You can cometfall and bb and searing light, but you don't need heighten or spell pen for those.

On the enhancements:

Only two racial toughnesses? HP are so critical with a meleeing build whose class has no toughness benefits.
Drop the spell pen. As stated worthless.

Excellent suggestions thanks!

[unbongwah]

Rather than the THF feats, I would take PA and Imp Crit Slash. Both will get you a much bigger boost to single-target DPS; and you'd be able to take another metamagic.

I'd be inclined to dump-stat CHA: you didn't take Divine Might I or FoP (which would help justify base CHA 14 after tome); and you don't seem to be focused on turning undead. You give up some TU charges, but is that really an issue?

You should have enough skill pts for max Concentration and 11 ranks of UMD. I suspect you would get more out of UMD in the long run than a few pts of Balance & Jump.

I posted a dwarf battle cleric yesterday along similar lines, although mine also goes for Intimidate.

[Delar303]

Radiant Warrior: Greater Greater Two Handed Fighting Cleric 17 (Radiant Servant II) / Fighter 2 / Wizard 1

First of all thank you very much for your comments, ideas and suggestions! They have been a great help in forging this class build. I replied this post to avoid creating new posts with only slight changes, i.e. the addition of one wizard level, etc.

My goal was to build a battle cleric that would have solid healing with a proficient amount of melee DPS when needed. I chose Two Handed Fighting (Strength 15+), Improved Two Handed Fighting (requires Strength 17+, base attack bonus of +6), Improved Critical Slashing Weapons (base attack bonus +8) and Greater Two Handed Fighting (base attack bonus of +11) feats as soon as they were available.

Class Leveling: Cleric 17 / Fighter 2 / Wizard 1
1) Wizard
2-3) Cleric
4) Fighter
5-8) Cleric
9) Fighter
10-20) Cleric

Cleric Level 17 still gains two level 9 spells. This unfortunately delays getting blade barrier till level 14 but it makes level up easier due to more melee DPS ability and earlier feats. Having one level of Wizard allows me to take one additional spell feat and the use of additional wands, etc.

32-point starting abilities are:
Strength: 15
Dexterity: 8
Constitution: 16
Intellect: 8
Wisdom: 18
Charisma: 8

All five level up bonuses went into +5 wisdom. If you want Improved Two Handed Fighting at level 9 you need to use a +2 to strength tome at level 7 or use two of your ability score level up bonuses to strength.

Feats Selected:
1) Toughness & Extend Spell (Wizard Bonus)
3) Empower Healing Spell
4) Two Handed Fighting (Fighter Bonus)
6) Maximize Spell
9) Quicken Spell & Improved Two Handed Fighting (Fighter Bonus)
12) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
15) Greater Two Handed Fighting
18) Heighten Spell

Since most purely damage-causing spells (Cometfall, Blade Barrier, etc) ignore Spell Resistance, and the saving throw DC to resist is equal to 10 + the level of the spell + the modifier for Wisdom I decided to keep the Heighten Spell feat and to increase my starting wisdom to the max (18 Wisdom).

As for spell resistance, since I'm only taking my cleric to level 17 and do not have any spare enhancement points or feats I'll have to avoid using those spells: (caster level + spell penetration bonuses). I plan on focusing on damage, healing and buff style spells.

I plan on wielding a Great Axe when focused on melee DPS. I didn't choose the Power Attack feat because my base attack bonus was already low due to primarily leveling as a cleric with one level of wizard, plus in a group situation where I would get a ton of hit buffs I would primarily assume a healing role.

I took Racial Toughness II primarily because I couldn't find any spare enhancement points in this build but I did get Fighter Toughness I, Dwarven Constitution II and 16 starting Constitution which helps somewhat in the health department.

Enhancements Selected:

Cleric Radiant Servant I
Cleric Radiant Servant II
Dwarven Axe Attack I
Dwarven Axe Attack II
Dwarven Axe Damage I
Dwarven Axe Damage II
Dwarven Constitution I
Dwarven Constitution II
Dwarven Faith I
Dwarven Faith II
Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Racial Toughness I
Racial Toughness II
Cleric Heal I
Cleric Heal II
Cleric Prayer of Life I
Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Cleric Life Magic I
Cleric Life Magic II
Cleric Life Magic III
Cleric Life Magic IV
Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Cleric Charisma I
Cleric Charisma II
Fighter Strength I
Cleric Wisdom I
Cleric Wisdom II
Cleric Wisdom III
Fighter Toughness I
Cleric Divine Vitality I
Cleric Improved Turning I
Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I

Comments, suggestions, ideas? Did I miss something? Thanks!

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Lidhell 
Level 20 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(2 Fighter \ 17 Cleric \ 1 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 332
Spell Points: 1344 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 5
Will: 21

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 17                   18
Dexterity             8                 10                   10
Constitution         16                 18                   20
Intelligence          8                 10                   10
Wisdom               18                 25                   28
Charisma              8                 10                   12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance              -1                  0                    4
Bluff                -1                  1                    1
Concentration         6                 28                   28
Diplomacy            -1                 10                   10
Disable Device       n/a                n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                  1                    1
Heal                  4                  9                   11
Hide                 -1                  0                    0
Intimidate           -1                  1                    1
Jump                  2                  7                    7
Listen                4                  9                    9
Move Silently        -1                  0                    0
Open Lock            n/a                n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                  0                    0
Search               -1                  0                    2
Spot                  4                  9                    9
Swim                  2                  4                    4
Tumble               -0.5                0.5                  0.5
Use Magic Device     n/a                n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Wizard)
Skill: Concentration (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Dismiss Charm
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stability
Feat: (Automatic) Dwarven Stonecutting
Feat: (Automatic) Giant Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Inscribe Scroll
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Orc and Goblin Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Poison Save Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Throwing Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Spell Save Bonus
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing


Level 2 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bane
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cause Fear
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Doom
Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Summon Monster I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Dwarven Waraxe
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency


Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Close Wounds
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Find Traps
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (2): Sonic Blast
Spell (2): Spawn Screen
Spell (2): Summon Monster II


Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (3): Bestow Curse
Spell (3): Blindness
Spell (3): Contagion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (3): Water Breathing


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+2)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Spell (4): Chaos Hammer
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (4): Dismissal
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Order's Wrath
Spell (4): Panacea
Spell (4): Poison
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Spell (4): Symbol of Flame
Spell (4): Unholy Blight


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (5): Greater Command
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (5): Protection From Elements
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Spell (5): Slay Living
Spell (5): Spell Resistance
Spell (5): Stalwart Pact
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): True Seeing


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Spell (6): Banishment
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (6): Create Undead
Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic
Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding
Spell (6): Harm
Spell (6): Heal
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Spell (6): Mass Bear's Endurance
Spell (6): Mass Bull's Strength
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Eagle's Spendor
Spell (6): Mass Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Owl's Wisdom
Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
Spell (6): Symbol of Fear
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (6): Undead to Death
Spell (6): Word of Recall


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Spell (7): Destruction
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance
Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass
Spell (7): Resurrection
Spell (7): Summon Monster VII
Spell (7): Symbol of Stunning
Spell (7): Symbol of Weakness


Level 17 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)


Level 18 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell
Spell (8): Death Pact
Spell (8): Firestorm
Spell (8): Mass Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (8): Mass Death Ward
Spell (8): Mass Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (8): Summon Monster VIII
Spell (8): Symbol of Death


Level 19 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)


Level 20 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Spell (9): Energy Drain
Spell (9): Implosion
Spell (9): Mass Heal
Spell (9): Summon Monster IX
Spell (9): True Resurrection
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Wand and Scroll Mastery I

[gott_ist_tot]

IMO power attack and IC:S are way better at improving DPS than THF feat line. Especially considering glancing blows not working when moving, and a healer, fighting or not, is constantly moving. And 3 feats go to waste.

Blade barriers are very good even at half damage, so personally I'd go all out in strength.

P.S. I'm referring to the first build. Splashing a level of wiz is something I can't seem to be able to wrap my head around.

[Helsdot]

I did something similar to this. I have a few build options I was considering on my battle cleric. I went up through the Radiant Servant line and was grinding away at a few quests for their static rewards and in the meantime was banking XP. I ran Delera's Tomb, and the first time I completed it, bang - Carnifex. After rolling through a lower level quest I could level up twice, and took 1 more Cleric and 1 Fighter level (Clr 8/Ftr 1).

My base Str is 16 (14+1 human/1 Fighter str boost), with Bull's it's 20, and I usually used a longsword (Dol Dorn for RS). The Fighter level bumped up my BAB nicely, so I took Imp Slashing and PA. Holy ... solid human excrement (apparently if you put 'c' in front of the word 'rap', Turbine considers that naughty enough to censor *shrug*). I normally connected for 11-ish damage with maybe 20-ish crits running my sword n' board. Rolling around with Carnifex I was laying down 65-85 crits maybe every 4th or 5th hit even with my reduced hit bonus.

It could just have been a function of a good weapon, lucky rolls, and the relatively low level, but this build took off like a supersonic jet. Now the next thing to consider... whether to stay on Cleric, or splash another Fighter level later.

[aldror]

Battle cleric? Isn't that an oxymoron?

[Rusty_Can]

The feat heighten is a waste.

It's not.

Losing two levels and starting with a weaker wisdom is going to give you a -3 to your DC's already.

No. 2 fighter levels will affect Spell Penetration, not DC. He is just losing 1 DC, having 16 starting WIS instead of 18, and that's fine.

And there's no point in being a melee focused axe wielding cleric without IC: Slash.

Many builds skip IC, especially if they plan to craft MinII weapons; IC feat is definitely nice to have, but he can live without. Instead, I'd take Power Attack.

You have to accept that you will not be an offensive caster.

Nah. Imo, 16 starting wisdom + all lvl-up points in WIS + Heighten feat make offensive casting perfectly viable.

Battle cleric? Isn't that an oxymoron?

No: it's actually a pleonasm.

[flynnjsw]

Battle cleric? Isn't that an oxymoron?

Providing that's not a joke; you don't know much about clerics do you? You can even look at modern day combat medics/Corpsman in the same way.

[AylinIsAwesome]

The feat heighten is a waste. Losing two levels and starting with a weaker wisdom is going to give you a -3 to your DC's already. And there's no point in being a melee focused axe wielding cleric without IC: Slash. YOu are just going to get mediocrity with both. You have to accept that you will not be an offensive caster. Just healing and melee. You can cometfall and bb and searing light, but you don't need heighten or spell pen for those.

You don't know much about Clerics, do you? There's so much wrong there I don't know where to start.

[AylinIsAwesome]

The feat heighten is a waste. Losing two levels and starting with a weaker wisdom is going to give you a -3 to your DC's already. And there's no point in being a melee focused axe wielding cleric without IC: Slash. YOu are just going to get mediocrity with both. You have to accept that you will not be an offensive caster. Just healing and melee. You can cometfall and bb and searing light, but you don't need heighten or spell pen for those.

You don't know much about Clerics, do you? There's so much wrong there I don't know where to start.

You can neg rep me all you want to, but the fact still remains that having less than 20 Cleric levels doesn't negatively impact your spell DCs, Heighten is still important for WIS-based Clerics, and Improved Critical: Slash can be made up for with a Mineral 2 weapon. Oh yeah, and with 16 starting WIS and all levels into it, you can still be an offensive caster.

Please, try again.