Transfer characters between accounts

[Uska]

very exploitedable and just not a good idea generally

[Bilger]

Truth is, one of my other MMOs did this. There was a problem of people having too many accounts similar to what happened here as they increased the character limit cap so they just made an event where those who wanted to merge accounts have one chance and one chance only and only during that event to merge their accounts and they did not offer it ever again.

It worked because being a one-off event, the platsellers couldn't make it into a profitable business and everyone got their accounts merged. And Visty, you don't really know what we're trying to say here.

That would be another solution and all in all I think would work.

Still would like to have option what if don't have money at the time of event kinda leaves some people out.

Still a good idea though.

[Bilger]

very exploitedable and just not a good idea generally

How? Explain please.

Yes he is a guildy and I know where he is coming from and discussed with him before posted.

So I will defend his idea because it is a good one and not as exploitable as think how if HISTORY (keyword) is same for a few months or even a year or more is that exploitable?

[AyumiAmakusa]

That would be another solution and all in all I think would work.

Still would like to have option what if don't have money at the time of event kinda leaves some people out.

Still a good idea though.

It's one of those 'life isn't fair' moments.

[Levonestral]

As I said, account credit card HISTORY !

If the account is new, then I'm sure Turbine is smart enough not to approve the transfer. Worse, if they feel it's shady, they can ban both the accounts.

Yes there are lots of stupid people in this game and the world. I would hope this would actually remove some of them from the game. How is that a bad thing ?

Transfering between accounts, if paid on a per character basis, yes would allow you to "avoid the cap per account". Let's say at $10 per transfer, how often would it be done and why would it matter? Turbine's making $10 per shot each time anyway.

And yes, I'd like to see on a per character basis, call me a dreamer.

I'd probably avoid a full transfer since I have more than 30 characters between the 5 accounts and actually only want to move a few of them to my "main" account. The others can stay in the original accounts of which I would continue to pay for anyway.

[Levonestral]

Let me be clear, I actually don't care about the Credit card option. It was only a SUGGESTION to help out other cases and I agree could possibly lead to problems. It was only a SECONDARY option. My first option of allowing transfers between accounts of the SAME login still stands.

If the accounts are under the same login, that means they've always been under that login. You cannot add accounts to a login that already exist, they can only be new one's.

Allowing the transfer of characters between those accounts, on a price per character basis would allow you to avoid character limits, but if you don't allow transfer to F2P accounts and only VIP one's, then they're making money on both sides and who cares how often you do it ? (Yes, I'm aware they can make the VIP into F2P later, but they you can't transfer again until you go back to VIP again, which is more $)

[Visty]

Let me be clear, I actually don't care about the Credit card option. It was only a SUGGESTION to help out other cases and I agree could possibly lead to problems. It was only a SECONDARY option. My first option of allowing transfers between accounts of the SAME login still stands.

If the accounts are under the same login, that means they've always been under that login. You cannot add accounts to a login that already exist, they can only be new one's.

Allowing the transfer of characters between those accounts, on a price per character basis would allow you to avoid character limits, but if you don't allow transfer to F2P accounts and only VIP one's, then they're making money on both sides and who cares how often you do it ? (Yes, I'm aware they can make the VIP into F2P later, but they you can't transfer again until you go back to VIP again, which is more $)

that i still dont understand, how can you have more then 1 account under 1 login name?
(asked that earlier already but got successfully ignored it seems)

[Levonestral]

and thats just something i made up myself in a few seconds, think about what a huge company can do if they think a week about it

What's stopping them from doing that now to a F2P or VIP account?

They create the account, make the character, grind it and then sell it to someone willing to change the login info later?

The problem is there already, I'm sure Turbine has things in place to observe these kinds of changes in accounts.

[Visty]

What's stopping them from doing that now to a F2P or VIP account?

They create the account, make the character, grind it and then sell it to someone willing to change the login info later?

The problem is there already, I'm sure Turbine has things in place to observe these kinds of changes in accounts.

the char wont be on the same account as your mainchar?

[Levonestral]

that i still dont understand, how can you have more then 1 account under 1 login name?
(asked that earlier already but got successfully ignored it seems)

Actually, you just failed to read:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...63&postcount=9

I have 5 accounts, each were created from the main login inside the Turbine account manager website. When I log in, I choose which account I want to use.

[Levonestral]

the char wont be on the same account as your mainchar?

And that stops people from having more than one login name ?

People already have more than one login pointing to different accounts, this is what sparked the entire consideration about using CC history.

My point is that I have multiple accounts under the SAME login that I wanted characters transferred between.

[Visty]

My point is that I have multiple accounts under the SAME login that I wanted characters transferred between.

HOW?

maybe if you would answer my question, i would understand your point better

[Bilger]

HOW?

maybe if you would answer my question, i would understand your point better

He did read all his posts?

I understand how just by his posts?

Read again he does explain.

[Visty]

He did read all his posts?

I understand how just by his posts?

Read again he does explain.

well true, seems i missed that post

then it somehow might be possible if they all have the same login, though thats still exploitable
(add platfarmer account, tranfser char, remove platfarmer account)

and for those who throw HISTORY in here now:
add platfarmer account, wait 3 weeks, transfer char, remove platfarmer account, pay the 500$ for your new char

[Levonestral]

HOW?

maybe if you would answer my question, i would understand your point better

Wow, I answered this 3 times now. Maybe you need the step by step?

1) I log into Turbine Account
2) I go to the top of the page, I enter in the key from my box purchase
3) I create a new account
4) I assign the account a name
5) Turbine creates the account, charges my CC
6) I go to DDO login and log in
7) I choose the new account
8) I play the game

This help ?

Now, that all said, for those who did not actually purchase the box back when it used to be sold, I'm pretty sure you can't get them now.

Which I guess leads into the whole "Can we merge our accounts".....hmmm, sounds like a familiar thread

[Levonestral]

well true, seems i missed that post

then it somehow might be possible if they all have the same login, though thats still exploitable
(add platfarmer account, tranfser char, remove platfarmer account)

and for those who throw HISTORY in here now:
add platfarmer account, wait 3 weeks, transfer char, remove platfarmer account, pay the 500$ for your new char

If you took the time to READ this post:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=26

There I mention that you CANNOT add existing accounts. ONLY new ones.

Which leads into the whole asking turbine to manually approve accounts of different logins based on CC history etc etc.

I think Turbine is smart enough to figure out if an account is new or not and able to determine if its safe to transfer. Worse case, they ban all accounts involved and walk away from it.

[Bilger]

well true, seems i missed that post

then it somehow might be possible if they all have the same login, though thats still exploitable
(add platfarmer account, tranfser char, remove platfarmer account)

and for those who throw HISTORY in here now:
add platfarmer account, wait 3 weeks, transfer char, remove platfarmer account, pay the 500$ for your new char

3 weeks isn't having a history lol seriously

A history is a few months or more who is going to wait that time your arguments have no weight.

[Yazston_the_Invoker]

Ok...this post is in NO way me kissing up to my guild leader/officers!!!


Anyway, I just wanted to add that if they were to do something like this, they could check public IP addresses to find out if the accounts are run from the same geographical locations, as well as check the history as stated above. I believe there would be enough for them to check to make it viable, though they might need to add a disclaimer that transfers that cannot be verified will not be completed.

In addition, this could be something that is only available to VIPs that have had active accounts for a certain period of time...say 6 months or more...to try to avoid having accounts created, levelled, then sold. I think most people that have active VIP accounts for that long would be less likely to buy characters or accounts from other people, and with an exception such as this, it should make policing it a little easier.

Not to mention that if they started something like this, and had people constantly transferring 1 character away from their account, and/or attempting to transfer characters between accounts that log in from different geographical locations (like a character being moved from an account that logs in from an IP in South Korea, to an account that logs in from an IP in Atlanta, GA, USA), then it would be one more way for them to try to find some of those plat farmers...

Oh, and I'm sure that Turbine would love to add this, since I'm willing to bet that alot of people with multiple accounts have 1 VIP "main" and other Premium and/or F2P accounts. If that is the case, they will definitely make money when they offer to do account merges at the ridiculously low price of $29.95!!! And if you think about it...people already sell their accounts to other people...used to be a ton on ebay all the time. As long as Turbine charges for account merges, or per character for character merges, then they are making money on something that was done anyway and they never used to see a dime from.

[AyumiAmakusa]

HOW?

maybe if you would answer my question, i would understand your point better

Erm. Many parents who open new accounts for their kids do this. It's nothing new.

[jwdaniels]

Turbine could certainly make this happen, and here's why. First, you'd have to pay for each additional character slot in the main account or else you wouldn't have enough room for all of those characters in the first place. Then you'd have to pay for each account you were merging into the main one. Finally, they'd of course want to make it a service only available to VIP subscribers with at least 6 months left on their subscriptions.

As long as they can find a way to make it pay, they can find a way to do it.