Old Elsongo Build

[Mojhoman]

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Level 20 Neutral Good Elf Male
(20 Bard) 
Hit Points: 240
Spell Points: 670 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 11
Reflex: 16
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    18
Dexterity            16                    18
Constitution         13                    20
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             14                    20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                    23
Bluff                 3                     5
Concentration         6                    28
Diplomacy             3                     5
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                7                    29
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  4                     4
Intimidate            3                     5
Jump                  8                    27
Listen                0                     2
Move Silently         4                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               7                    29
Repair                1                     1
Search                1                     3
Spot                  0                     2
Swim                  4                     4
Tumble                8                    27
Use Magic Device      7                    28

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Minos Legens \par Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II \par Pouch of Jerky \par Bard's Cloak \par Colethenis's Belt \par Ring of the Ravager \par Shiona's Seal \par Bramble-Casters \par Striding Boots \par Bracers of the Glacier \par Chain Shirt of Crippling \par Tharne's Goggles \par  \par Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I


Level 4 (Bard)
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II


Level 5 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 7 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II


Level 8 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage II


Level 10 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III


Level 11 (Bard)


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack II


Level 13 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II


Level 14 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV


Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II


Level 17 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song III


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III


Level 19 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
Enhancement: Bard Haggle I
Enhancement: Bard Perform I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Bard Wand Mastery I

[stormarcher]

first: you cant use +2 tomes at level 1.

Second: 13 con does nothing. If you are already going to use a +2 dex tome I would suggest dropping dex to 15 and raising con

[Mojhoman]

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Level 20 True Neutral Drow Male
(20 Bard) 
Hit Points: 310
Spell Points: 877 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 13
Reflex: 18
Will: 14

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    20
Dexterity            16                    22
Constitution         13                    24
Intelligence         14                    20
Wisdom                8                    14
Charisma             17                    26

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 4
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 4
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 4
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 4
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 4
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 4
+4 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 20
+4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
+4 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    31
Bluff                 3                    10
Concentration         5                    32
Diplomacy             7                    33
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                7                    33
Heal                 -1                     4
Hide                  3                     8
Intimidate            3                    17.5
Jump                  6                    30
Listen               -1                     6
Move Silently         3                     8
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               7                    33
Repair                2                     7
Search                2                     9
Spot                 -1                     6
Swim                  2                     7
Tumble                7                    31
Use Magic Device      7                    33

{\b {\ul Notable Equipment }} \par Torc of Prince Raiyum-de II \par Shiona's Seal \par Ring of the Ravager \par Dexterous Gloves \par Colethenis's Belt \par Marilith Chain \par Pouch of Jerky \par Tharne's Bracers \par Tharne's Goggles \par Dustless Boots \par Minos Legens \par Bard's Cloak \par Light and Darkness (Upgraded) \par Windlasher \par Supreme Tyrent Greensteel Helmet of Minerial II \par Warchanter's Band \par Bramble-Casters \par  \par Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 2 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Improved Spell Resistance I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I


Level 4 (Bard)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II


Level 5 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration I


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 7 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song II


Level 8 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III


Level 10 (Bard)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II


Level 11 (Bard)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II


Level 12 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song III


Level 13 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III


Level 14 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack III


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song IV


Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II


Level 17 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song III
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song III


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Completionist
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV


Level 19 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Improved Spell Penetration II


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Musical Prodigy
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I

[stormarcher]

Relying on +4 tomes is not that Reliable

[khaldan]

Relying on +4 tomes is not that Reliable

don't forget the torc, 3 ToD rings, and marilith chain.

Though by the time you get those, you probably have a set of +4 tomes

EDIT: and the 3x TR in every class. What the heck is this build?

[stormarcher]

I vote troll.

[unbongwah]

Second: 13 con does nothing. If you are already going to use a +2 dex tome I would suggest dropping dex to 15 and raising con

If you read between the lines, he put all his lvl-ups into CON; base 13 + 2 tome + 5 lvl-ups = 20. That's, uhh, one way to deal with an elf bard's low HPs, I guess.

[grodon9999]

I vote troll.

Not at all, he's guildie of mine he is ABSOLUTELY planning on doing this. We all think he's nuts but a troll he ain't.

[Bowser_Koopa]

I blame Elsongo for the current DDO economic crisis as well as any and all failed raids ever. He's just that good.....at being bad.

But really it is all your fault Elsongo

[Anthios888]

don't forget the torc, 3 ToD rings, and marilith chain.
Though by the time you get those, you probably have a set of +4 tomes

Definitely not true. Loot is easy to get - repeat the quest to 20th and you stand a reasonable chance at not only getting your item but probably a few others as well. Raid loot tomes, not so much. I have run many many epic raids and towers, and never seen a +4 tome anywhere near my name. It's not anecdotal or elitist or anything, it's just statistically, +4 tomes are very rare.

That aside, I'm really confused by this build...

[Mojhoman]

Wow, lol quite the response here. Most of the gear, -the +4tomes I already own. My goal is simple, make a broad spectrum Elf Bard capable of dishing out a respectable amount of dps while maintaining a firm support role (CC, backup healer, buffer) I acknowledge that there are many Bards that can do any one of these better, but non will do them all at the same time with my level of proficiency.

That being said there is a lot that I need to clean up with on the build (tomes in the wrong spot ect) but like the build I TRed from, this one will be disgustingly effective as any one that ran with me in the months before I TRed will attest to.

[JoeyWMD]

Elsongo!!! He's a rogue now D: Which is a LIE!!!! hurry through your tr's Bro! We need that beast of a bard back you out dps'd most chars in almost every situation

[bartosy]

level 1

Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

By the time you reached that you should have 94 ability points at creation and should be able to max every stat and have some left..

Let me sum it up for you tho..

goal : generalist bard buffing healing damage and cc.

damage : Well this guy will be able to bring some damage to the table twf chain and the gear he has yea no doubts there.

9.5/10

Buffing : It's a warchanter with some sp, buffing should be fine then again you miss extend in both of your builds wich will need a close eye on micromanagement on your tiny buffs.. still playable tho but not optimal.

6/10

Healing : no empower no maximise no heighten and just relying on some crits and the tiny bard song magic 4.. worthless.

4/10

Crowd Control : only means of crowd control you have is fascinate and that's where it stops. No focus enchant no greater focus enchant no spell pen no heighten cc wise worthless.

3/10

overal score 5.5/10 average.



Congratulations you made a warchanter with a sp pool.

[Mojhoman]

By the time you reached that you should have 94 ability points at creation and should be able to max every stat and have some left..

Let me sum it up for you tho..

goal : generalist bard buffing healing damage and cc.

More of a support role really. As a backup healer my role is to buy the main healer a little extra time to top player X up, not to be the main healer for a ToD.

damage : Well this guy will be able to bring some damage to the table twf chain and the gear he has yea no doubts there.

9.5/10

Buffing : It's a warchanter with some sp, buffing should be fine then again you miss extend in both of your builds wich will need a close eye on micromanagement on your tiny buffs.. still playable tho but not optimal.

6/10

By the time I hit 20 extend is for the most part a moot point with the exception of Haste, rage and the ilk which I ca cast in battle with no issues if we dont have a dedicated caster. Again, I play a support role and the buffs that really matter to a Bard are his/her songs.

Healing : no empower no maximise no heighten and just relying on some crits and the tiny bard song magic 4.. worthless.

4/10

Far from worthless. I am there as 'backup' not the main healer. A few cure mass mod, a spot of cure critical, a scroll or 3 and the main healers are having a MUCH easier time. I am support. I embrace that role.

Crowd Control : only means of crowd control you have is fascinate and that's where it stops. No focus enchant no greater focus enchant no spell pen no heighten cc wise worthless.

3/10

Facinate, dance, Aggro CC, debuffs. . . . and those are just a few of my options. Also you might want to look at what those passive feats do for my spell pen. My only real challenge for CC are undead and constructs both of which can be oneshotted with either a disruptor or a smiter.

overal score 5.5/10 average.



Congratulations you made a warchanter with a sp pool.

I think you might want to consider re-rolling your knowledge base.

[bartosy]

I think you might want to consider re-rolling your knowledge base.

aww did i hurt your little e-feelings ? Go roll that character with 33 past lives already and dont bother people with your boring builds. Nuff said not worth checking this thread again.

[Mojhoman]

aww did i hurt your little e-feelings ? Go roll that character with 33 past lives already and dont bother people with your boring builds. Nuff said not worth checking this thread again.

Nope, just pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Though it would appear that my playful aside hurt your feelings, for that I apologize.