Elven Kensai AA with Khopesh

[Sani_Medicor]

The build seems pretty solid, but I decided to make a last minute change to the stats (not reflected in the planner). With the +5 str from levels, +2 str from enhancements, and +4 dex from enhancements...that puts me at 22 str and 22 dex before items. The 12 starting wisdom will allow me to be item free with a +2 wis tome.

Chaotic Good Elf
(Ranger 14 / Fighter 6)

Stats
Str 15 +5 Level Ups
Dex 18
Con 14
Int 8
Wis 12
Cha 8
(+2 Tomes Str, Dex, Con, Wis)

Feats
1 Khopesh
3 Toughness
5 Weapon Focus: Ranged
6 Mental Toughness
6 Point Blank Shot
9 Improved Critical: Ranged
12 Improved Critical: Slashing
13 Weapon Focus: Slashing
15 Weapon Specialization: Ranged
15 Weapon Specialization: Slashing
18 Power Attack

Favored Enemies
Undead
Giants
Evil Outsiders

Skills
Jump 10
Spot 10
Listen 10
Balance 10
Hide 15
Move Silently 15
Tumble 1

Progression
Ranger 1-4
Fighter 5-6
Ranger 7-11
Fighter 12-15
Ranger 16-20

Enhancements
Fighter Kensei I
Fighter Strength II
Fighter Toughness II
Fighter Haste Boost II
Fighter Attack Boost II
Fighter Armor Mastery I
Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Ranger Dexterity II
Ranger Sprint Boost I
Ranger Favored Attack II
Ranger Favored Damage II
Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Elven Dexterity II
Racial Toughness II
Elven Arcane Archer I
Elven Ranged Attack II
Elven Ranged Damage II
Elven Enchantment Resistance II
Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows

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Level 20 Chaotic Good Elf Male
(6 Fighter \ 14 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 314
Spell Points: 336 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 17
Will: 8
 
              Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             16                 23                   25
Dexterity            16                 18                   22
Constitution         14                 16                   16
Intelligence          8                  8                    8
Wisdom               14                 14                   14
Charisma              8                  8                    8
 
Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 20
 
              Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
             Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)          (Level 20)
Balance               5                 16                   16
Bluff                -1                 -1                    0
Concentration         2                 13                   14
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                    0
Disable Device       n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                 -1                   -1
Heal                  2                  3                    3
Hide                  7                 20                   20
Intimidate           -1                 -1                    0
Jump                  3                 17                   17
Listen                4                 12                   14
Move Silently         7                 20                   20
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                 -1                   -1
Search               -1                 -1                    1
Spot                  6                 12                   14
Swim                  3                  7                    7
Tumble                4                  7                    7
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a
 
Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
 
 
Level 2 (Ranger)
 
 
Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
 
 
Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
 
 
Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
 
 
Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot
 
 
Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
 
 
Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
 
 
Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
 
 
Level 10 (Ranger)
 
 
Level 11 (Ranger)
 
 
Level 12 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
 
 
Level 13 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
 
 
Level 14 (Fighter)
 
 
Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
 
 
Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
 
 
Level 17 (Ranger)
 
 
Level 18 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
 
 
Level 19 (Ranger)
 
 
Level 20 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Longbow Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II

[richieelias27]

Since Ranger does not have any short duration spells, you could drop extend and your spells will still last 14 minutes. Should be plenty.

Drop that and oversized TWF and you can shoehorn in weapon focus slashing+weapon spec slashing for a net loss of 1 to attack and a gain of 2 to damage on your khopeshes

[unbongwah]

First off, I don't think ranger 13 & 14 adds much; I'd go with monk 2 for 2 extra feats, WIS AC, and Evasion early on (depending on when you take). [Aka the Ranged Monster.]

Second, it looks like you went longbow Kensai, but did you consider khopesh Kensai instead? Split the difference between ranged & melee DPS, I figure.

[Sani_Medicor]

First off, I don't think ranger 13 & 14 adds much; I'd go with monk 2 for 2 extra feats, WIS AC, and Evasion early on (depending on when you take). [Aka the Ranged Monster.]

Second, it looks like you went longbow Kensai, but did you consider khopesh Kensai instead? Split the difference between ranged & melee DPS, I figure.

I was told in another thread that the buffs maxxed out at level 13. Fighter 7 gives the fighter haste III and toughness III enhancements, but Ranger 14 gets me Freedom of Movement.

That's a really cool idea on the khopesh kensai, but I have a bunch of twf builds...this one is really all about the ranged. I just needed a character to use some icy burst weapons that I made. In fact, I may eventually change to scimitars and use the elven enhancements.

[krud]

I In fact, I may eventually change to scimitars and use the elven enhancements.

That's not a bad idea to go with scimitars on an elf. With the enhancements it's fairly close to a khopesh, plus you save a feat. Drop extend also and pick up weapon focus/specialization instead.

12 wis is fine if you don't plan on taking monk levels, but I wouldn't worry too much about getting even stats at cap. There are so many ways to bump up an odd stat that you might as well just start out with the higher strength (16), and start with a 17dex.

[Sani_Medicor]

That's not a bad idea to go with scimitars on an elf. With the enhancements it's fairly close to a khopesh, plus you save a feat. Drop extend also and pick up weapon focus/specialization instead.

Yeah...may do that down the road...taking extend the level before I get barkskin...it should save me spell points buffing a party until I get to a higher level...definitely starting khopesh...got a shocking burst icy burst to use at level 4...can always swap out the feat when I run out of good khopesh and swap to scimitars. lol

[unbongwah]

I was told in another thread that the buffs maxxed out at level 13.

Jump spell maxes at ranger 9, Cure Moderate at 10, Resist Energy at 11, Barkskin & Prot from Energy at 12, CSW at 15 - not seeing anything which maxes at lvl 13. Good point about FoM, but if this build is for grouping, odds are there will be a divine caster along.

[Sani_Medicor]

I changed the stats on the build. I dropped extend spell and oversized two weapon fighting. I added weapon focus and weapon specialization slashing. I've picked up some more decent khopesh, so I'll stick with that feat for now.

I'm still debating on adding two levels of monk. Any suggestions on where to take them and what monk feats to take (I'm currently at level 5 and about to level up to 6)?

p.s. Another option would be to go ranger 13/ fighter 7 for the extra haste and tougness enhancements. I would probably have to drop my favored enemy attack/damage though.

[shablala]

I changed the stats on the build. I dropped extend spell and oversized two weapon fighting. I added weapon focus and weapon specialization slashing. I've picked up some more decent khopesh, so I'll stick with that feat for now.

I'm still debating on adding two levels of monk. Any suggestions on where to take them and what monk feats to take (I'm currently at level 5 and about to level up to 6)?

p.s. Another option would be to go ranger 13/ fighter 7 for the extra haste and tougness enhancements. I would probably have to drop my favored enemy attack/damage though.

How about this idea:

11ranger/3monk/6fighter

You will loose +1hit to favored enemies and 1spell slot.

Instead you get Fist of Light, take Whirlwind Steel Strike and pick up Longswords which can be enhanced also with Elf. Same Range DPS, but when you go melee you are way more survivable without sacrificing too much dps. Now you also have an extra 2feats to play with (1 left over from Monk and another for not taking Khopesh)

[krud]

This was a kensai-AA i drew up a couple of months ago. I didn't use it, but I it should work. It's almost identical to your setup, except with 2 monk. In yet another version I figured that if I took the 2 monk levels at 19,20 that I could fit in both greater weapon spec ranged and greater weapon spec slash at level 18 (where I take 12 ftr). It's only +2 ranged damage more than the first setup, and the feat order gets a little weird, so it's probably better on a lesser reincarnate than it is leveling.

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Neateaux Lreinc
Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
(12 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 6 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 336
Spell Points: 195 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 18
Will: 12
              Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            16                    22
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               14                    16
Charisma              8                     8
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 20
 
Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
 
Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Weapon Finesse
 
Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
 
Level 4 (Ranger)
 
Level 5 (Fighter)
 
Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
 
Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot
 
Level 8 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
 
Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
 
Level 10 (Ranger)
 
Level 11 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
 
Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
 
Level 13 (Fighter)
 
Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
 
Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
 
Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
 
Level 17 (Fighter)
 
Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
 
Level 19 (Fighter)
 
Level 20 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Kensei Scimitar Mastery I
Enhancement: Kensei Scimitar Mastery II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei I
Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II
Enhancement: Fighter Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Scimitar Specialization I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

the other version

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons
Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Point Blank Shot
Level 5 (Ranger)
Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot
Level 7 (Fighter)
Level 8 (Ranger)
Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Level 10 (Ranger)
Level 11 (Fighter)
Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Level 13 (Fighter)
Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot
Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
Level 17 (Fighter)
Level 18 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Level 19 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Level 20 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

[unbongwah]

Instead you get Fist of Light, take Whirlwind Steel Strike and pick up Longswords which can be enhanced also with Elf. Same Range DPS, but when you go melee you are way more survivable without sacrificing too much dps.

Even with the monk centered bonuses, longswords are a significant drop in DPS from khopeshes against crittable foes. I agree the free heals from FoL is great - in fact I've got my own monk / ranger build using longswords based on it - but it is definitely not a melee-DPS-focused build.

[shablala]

Even with the monk centered bonuses, longswords are a significant drop in DPS from khopeshes against crittable foes. I agree the free heals from FoL is great - in fact I've got my own monk / ranger build using longswords based on it - but it is definitely not a melee-DPS-focused build.

You are right, but I am going by what the OP's intention is. He wants to be 1st and foremost a range dps. So the FoL + Longswords are for things get tough and he needs to switch to melee.

Also the class level progression in the build I am not too crazy about. That's waiting way too long for GTWF in my opinion. But then again, if you are mostly using Range DPS, I guess it is no big deal.

[Sani_Medicor]

I'd like to try the monk stuff out, before I commit to it. I can make a level 4 veteran character with 3 levels of monk. I could go run a couple quests and level it to ranger 2 for TWF. Can someone post a 3 monk / 2 ranger build for me (or at least tell me the must have feats/enhancements)? Also, would I need to add concentration to my original build and would I need more wisdom? Thanks!

[krud]

I'd like to try the monk stuff out, before I commit to it. I can make a level 4 veteran character with 3 levels of monk. I could go run a couple quests and level it to ranger 2 for TWF. Can someone post a 3 monk / 2 ranger build for me (or at least tell me the must have feats/enhancements)? Also, would I need to add concentration to my original build and would I need more wisdom? Thanks!

14 wis is enough. Your stats look fine for a 12/6/2mnk

[unbongwah]

Can someone post a 3 monk / 2 ranger build for me (or at least tell me the must have feats/enhancements)?

If this is just for testing purposes: ranger 1, monk 1-3, ranger 2. Take WF Slash & Whirling Steel Strike at lvls 1 & 3; for your monk feats take, say, Toughness, Dodge, & Path of Light. You'll be able to TWF w/longswords at lvl 5 while staying centered. If you happen to have the Jidz-Tet'ka bracers on an alt, you can equip those too to see how the bonuses affect your build.

[Sani_Medicor]

If this is just for testing purposes: ranger 1, monk 1-3, ranger 2. Take WF Slash & Whirling Steel Strike at lvls 1 & 3; for your monk feats take, say, Toughness, Dodge, & Path of Light. You'll be able to TWF w/longswords at lvl 5 while staying centered. If you happen to have the Jidz-Tet'ka bracers on an alt, you can equip those too to see how the bonuses affect your build.

So I guess I just need to take the FOL enhancement and maybe way of the patient tortoise. Should I run around in wind stance most of the time?

[unbongwah]

Normally, yes, although you'll probably find your ki generation faster in Fire stance at early levels. And if you've got Jidz-Tet'ka you want to be in Fire stance before healing yourself (+25% self-healing amp).

[Sani_Medicor]

I gave it a try last night and liked it. The only problem was that I was killing everything to fast to get much healing. Lol I'm working on a new build that should be pretty sweet...if I can make everything fit! Thanks!

[Sani_Medicor]

Here's the final (I hope) version of the build...
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=267202