A 12 ranger/ 8 barbarian build.

[ARcdevil]

I was thinking rangers get the twf feats and barbarians go berzerk and are often twf so why not get the best bits of both? Heres the build so far

Warforged: neutrel good. 32 pt builds.

Str 18
Dex 14
Con 18
Int 8
wis 6
cha 6

1,ranger: Undead enemy and Dodge.
The rest is just ideas.

2,ranger

3,barb: Mobility

4, Barb

5, ranger

6, ranger: Moving attack thing

7, ranger

8, Ranger

9, Ranger: Not sure

Not sure what else.

Skills:
Level 1
Stealth skills (+4 points, now 6)

Jump (+4 points, now 8)

Tumble (+4 points, now 4)

UMD (+4 points, now 0)


Notes: If I change the build I will change it at the top, I am willing to take frenzied berzerker and change the levels slightly but It is staying Ranger/BarB unless somewon has a good idea.
I do not have Monk or Fvs.
I only took The wis points as they give will saves.
I think most of the spells are rubbish so I probly won't bother putting more points in.

7/8/10 Notes
Increased Str/ decreased Wis and Int
Chosen whep is now heavy pick. I don't consider Myself a new player as I have played for sevaral months now.
Build now built and Starting to try it.

[unbongwah]

Why in the heck would you go with DEX 18on a ranger 12 build? You're already getting the TWF feats; you don't need more than DEX 13 (I usually just round up to 14) for Dodge et al. Finesse is pointless on a barb build - you're Raging, focus on that!

I think rogue 2 / barb 6 / ranger 12 has more going for it: give up some barb enhs for UMD (possibly trap skills too).

[ARcdevil]

I didn't know finesse was useless during rage. That is a massive releaf.
Ill change the build.

[Nyvn]

Str 18
Dex 14
Con 16
Wis 8
Int 10
cha 6


01: Dodge
03: Mobility
06: Spring Attack
09: Toughness
12: Improved Critical
15: Power Attack
18: Oversized two Weapon Fighting

[ARcdevil]

Also any idea what whep I should use and are the armour feats worth taking?
So far I was considering a heavy pick or a logsword but I'm not sure now.

[Nyvn]

Heavy Picks, or Khopeshes, they are better dps, but need a feat. You'll either need to wait till you can fit in the feat or splash fighter to let you take it. But Heavy Picks have a sexy 4x crit modifier. And that = bigger numbers.

[Zanuzi]

Maybe think of 12/6/2 - ranger/barb/fighter, adding in kopesh and stunning blow with the fighter feats.

Also +1str for fighter 2

[Fedora]

So far I was considering a heavy pick or a logsword but I'm not sure now.

Well, the logsword would be better against rust monsters, but isn't that just like a club with a sharp edge?
Sorry, I couldn't resist - on my third cup of coffee this morning.

But on a constructive note, you may want to pick something other than OTWF - I think the penalty is only like -2 to hit if you don't have it. That's not much at lvl 18. Maybe go with Khopesh?

[Nyvn]

I try to avoid pushing Khopesh on new players, there aren't any good drop ones and random gen ones tend to be expensive. Heavy pick is a very viable choice.

[unbongwah]

I didn't know finesse was useless during rage.

It's not that Finesse is useless, it's just...well, you're a (MCed) barbarian, fer cryin' out loud! You should be all about maxing STR for max DPS - in which case, why sap your DPS with low STR?! Not to mention Finesse limits your weapon choices.

As for weapons: khopeshes will give you the best overall DPS, but it costs a feat on a fairly feat-starved build and they're hella expensive on the AH. Picks are the only weapons with an x4 crit multiplier and you'll be natively proficient with them, so they're a good choice. You can run Delera's for Sparkstriker; doing 3d10 lighting dmg on top of your regular crit dmg is tout sweet. Rapiers or scimitars are also good choices for their 18-20 crit range. If you want Stunning Blow, then consider going with warhammers of Stunning for the DC boost.

The biggest downside to going WF for this build is your self-heals won't be as good as a fleshie ranger using Cure wands. You may want a rogue splash for UMD so you can use Repair wands someday.

[QuantumFX]

I try to avoid pushing Khopesh on new players, there aren't any good drop ones and random gen ones tend to be expensive. Heavy pick is a very viable choice.

You can just put it as one of the last feats that they should take. By level 18 they should have plenty of opportunity to start crafting a Great Commander khopesh.

[Major_Twitch]

Why the khopesh or for that matter a heavy pick?
Bastard sword is better choice then a then either of those especially once you go green steel. Relying on the critical damage and effects is a bad option in my opinion. Your damage gets trashed when you run into heavy fort or resistances.

[ARcdevil]

Is fortification that common at high levels? My highest is a level 7 and I havent yet seen anything with fortification. I'm not to keen on adding fighter levels a that will affect my damage reduction and then become a amost exact clone of balkstar