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    Default Trap the Soul Suggestions for extra gem useage

    Reading through the trap the soul spell on the wiki I find the fact that only one resultant gems being useful a bit silly.

    One possible solution would be to make the creatures trapped within the gems usable as summoned monsters, similar to the one shot summon clickies given out in the festivals, active for 10 minutes then vanish to their eternal rest. Obviously this would lock out other summons while active.

    Either that or more crafting options that use the gems would be great, but the above options would be even better.
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    All four elemental flavors in all sizes are useful for rogues that want to bother with trapmaking....

    But the rest are still completely worthless.
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    I didn't look at the uses other classes have for them, and to be frank wizards and sorcerers need their own use for these items.

    Edit: Maybe adding a variation of PnP crafting feats that require these items along with other ingredients to make disposable magic items?

    examples:
    inscription materials for selected spells level + soul gem of strength based on spell level + selected spell (chosen from memorized list) = scroll of selected spell

    festival twig + scroll of <insert spell> + soul gem with weak/normal/strong essence = wand of <insert spell> with x/y/z charges

    Perhaps some item enhancements using soul gems that can only be done to randomly generated loot in combination with other items? such as with scrolls to give one shot abilities onto weapons.

    Also maybe allow soul gems of different essence strengths to be placed into gem slots on items for abilities based on type and strength?
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    Well, the rogue trapmaking was just added, so hopefully we'll see more uses down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symar-FangofLloth View Post
    Well, the rogue trapmaking was just added, so hopefully we'll see more uses down the road.
    Why hope that?

    What would be fun about encouraging Wizards to farm Soul Gems and sell them at auction? Do you know what the process of farming Soul Gems is like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archer001 View Post
    Reading through the trap the soul spell on the wiki I find the fact that only one resultant gems being useful a bit silly.

    One possible solution would be to make the creatures trapped within the gems usable as summoned monsters, similar to the one shot summon clickies given out in the festivals, active for 10 minutes then vanish to their eternal rest. Obviously this would lock out other summons while active.

    Either that or more crafting options that use the gems would be great, but the above options would be even better.
    I think that's a great idea! I picked up a Soul Gem: Essence of the Destroyer out of the Subterrane a while back, because I thought it sounded pretty cool. Just last week I sold it as vendor trash. Such a shame. It would be nice to make something that sounds that cool actually be, well, cool.
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    The best ideas i've seen with soul gems has to be useing them to boost or recharge wands/scrolls. This is a simple use that most classes could benifit from but the main class that cast the spell (wizard/sorcerers) would benifit the most.

    However temp. summoning is also an interesting idea although I could see the Devs. turning it into the Create undead spell in the aspect that you have control over it for 12 seconds then it trys to kill you. Imagine the first time someon uses that to summon a beholder (*cring*). However I like the summoning idea with soul gems if they didn't make it as dumbed down as create undead is now (PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF KHYBER FIX THIS SPELL!)
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    Default A use for a gem for a caster

    How about a high level spell that uses the soul gems as components for summoning the monster that was trapped?
    THAT would be cool..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus_dead View Post
    Why hope that?

    What would be fun about encouraging Wizards to farm Soul Gems and sell them at auction? Do you know what the process of farming Soul Gems is like?
    Hoping that the wizards can use them for something instead of selling them?
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