15 cleric/5 paly BC build

[wtorchia]

I have been kicking this build idea around for a while. The idea is to have DM 3 and the full healing amp lines from the cleric side with divine sac 1 from the paly side. The char will have decent saves due to the high char, be able to DPS OK and able to still toss of some decent heals when needed. I am not set on the level order yet. Just playing with the numbers still.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(5 Paladin \ 15 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 322
Spell Points: 929 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 16
Will: 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             13                    20
Dexterity            15                    17
Constitution         13                    16
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               12                    16
Charisma             16                    20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          
                 Base Skills        Base Skills       
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)        
Balance               4                 13            
Bluff                 3                  5            
Concentration         2                 26            
Diplomacy             3                  5            
Disable Device       n/a               n/a            
Haggle                3                  5            
Heal                  1                  3            
Hide                  2                  3            
Intimidate            3                  5            
Jump                  2                  6            
Listen                1                  3            
Move Silently         2                  3            
Open Lock             n/a               n/a           
Perform               n/a               n/a           
Repair               -1                 -1            
Search               -1                 -1            
Spot                  1                  3            
Swim                  1                  5            
Tumble                2.5                3.5          
Use Magic Device      n/a               n/a           

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Cleric)


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Cleric Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might III
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I

[Jay203]

why lvl 5 paladin?

[Bacab]

I would think 18CLR/2PLD or 18CLR/2FTR would be better.

I just do not see what 5 PLD gives.

[theb]

I have been kicking this build idea around for a while...

Kick harder.

[wtorchia]

The 5 paly lvls are for divine sacrifice. It will add 5d6 light damage at the cost of 1 SP and 5 HP. The RS aura will heal back the HP. I considered going 14/6 and taking KOC 1/ RS 2, but I would only be able to get DM 2 that way.

[Jay203]

The 5 paly lvls are for divine sacrifice. It will add 5d6 light damage at the cost of 1 SP and 5 HP. The RS aura will heal back the HP. I considered going 14/6 and taking KOC 1/ RS 2, but I would only be able to get DM 2 that way.

hm..... you really think the divine sac is worth putting in extra 3 lvls of pally?

[AndyD47]

How do you feel about going THF instead,leaving dex at 8 and pumping up the str a little.
Also,I'd try to get quicken in there some way but that's just me.

Real interesting though.

[wtorchia]

hm..... you really think the divine sac is worth putting in extra 3 lvls of pally?

I am not sure if it is worth it. Thats why I am asking here . 5d6 light damage every few seconds seams like it would add a ton of DPS to the build. Especially with a TWF build. That would be 10d6 on a double strike if I understand things correctly.

How do you feel about going THF instead,leaving dex at 8 and pumping up the str a little.
Also,I'd try to get quicken in there some way but that's just me.

Real interesting though.

Funny you should ask I was just looking at that my self. Here is what I came up with.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(5 Paladin \ 15 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 342
Spell Points: 891 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 11
Will: 18

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               12                    14
Charisma             16                    20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting            Ending          
                 Base Skills        Base Skills       
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 20)        
Balance               1                  9            
Bluff                 3                  5            
Concentration         3                 27            
Diplomacy             3                  5            
Disable Device       n/a               n/a            
Haggle                3                  5            
Heal                  1                  2            
Hide                 -1                 -1            
Intimidate            3                  5            
Jump                  4                  8            
Listen                1                  2            
Move Silently        -1                 -1            
Open Lock            n/a               n/a            
Perform               n/a               n/a           
Repair               -1                 -1            
Search               -1                 -1            
Spot                  1                  2            
Swim                  3                  7            
Tumble               -0.5               -0.5          
Use Magic Device      n/a               n/a           

Level 1 (Cleric)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Cleric)


Level 3 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Cleric)


Level 6 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 7 (Cleric)


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 9 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 10 (Cleric)


Level 11 (Cleric)


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 13 (Cleric)


Level 14 (Cleric)


Level 15 (Cleric)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant I
Enhancement: Cleric Radiant Servant II
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Cleric Heal I
Enhancement: Cleric Heal II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Cleric Prayer of Incredible Life III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Might III
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning III
Enhancement: Cleric Improved Turning I

[sirgog]

IMO you aren't getting much for your Cleric levels here. I'd never build a toon with between 1 and 16 Cleric levels. That is because the big breakpoint for Cleric levels is 17, when you get the most important healing spell in the game, Mass Heal.

Divine Sacrifice isn't nearly worth losing that for.

[wtorchia]

IMO you aren't getting much for your Cleric levels here. I'd never build a toon with between 1 and 16 Cleric levels. That is because the big breakpoint for Cleric levels is 17, when you get the most important healing spell in the game, Mass Heal.

Divine Sacrifice isn't nearly worth losing that for.

I can see what you are saying. Mass heal is a very powerful spell. I was aiming more for a support healer then a full blown healer. I have been playing the heal bot roll for the last few months and I am kinda bored with it. The main frustration for me is that half the time stuff dies before I can even get a spell of, or it dose not and I am trying to save the groups ass. I am just trying to find a way to be in the front line contributing and still be able to heal a decent group on a normal quest while backup healing on raids.

[AndyD47]

Looks like it'd be fun to play with to me.
Got an 18 cleric/2 paladin I'm working on and to be honest I don't even have any of the thf feats on him.
Warforged at that,so greatsword related enhancements and whatnot.

Personally,I got sold on taking maximize and still having nice bladebarrier damage.

On a side note you might want to take quicken right around when you get heal,but that's just my take on it.