Boot ingredient grind

[Thelmallen]

While staying neutral about whether ingreds are hard to get or not. . .or a Grind

I would like to point out that a Devil Scale sells for more than a Demon's Blood on the AH

And Shrouds are run 20 times more than TODs.

The other ingreds are really really cheap on the AH.

Thanks for your neutrality--you certainly are one of the people who could have said "I pulled all of mine in an afternoon"! Good advice on selling larges. I have all of the scales I need to craft my next GS item so I'll probably be putting my next one(s) up on AH to get some cash.

[Quikster]

Thanks for your neutrality--you certainly are one of the people who could have said "I pulled all of mine in an afternoon"! Good advice on selling larges. I have all of the scales I need to craft my next GS item so I'll probably be putting my next one(s) up on AH to get some cash.

Just sell em to me. Ill get you the boot ingred if needed.

[Irinis]

Hey what's wrong with accepting help from your guildies and friends? You were grinding it, you've worked, they had better luck and want to share. Just share something you have had better luck in, or when the day comes that you get the luck and pull 3 bloods from Bastion put them up for roll because someone helped you out when you needed it.

I can understand that you want to be able to actually earn it from running the quests and that the mechanism is still a wee bit broken. I've had no Keepsake luck lately.

[Quikster]

Hey what's wrong with accepting help from your guildies and friends? You were grinding it, you've worked, they had better luck and want to share. Just share something you have had better luck in, or when the day comes that you get the luck and pull 3 bloods from Bastion put them up for roll because someone helped you out when you needed it.

I can understand that you want to be able to actually earn it from running the quests and that the mechanism is still a wee bit broken. I've had no Keepsake luck lately.

I think the problem is what about the guy who doesnt have a guild, or his guild isnt wealthy, or they dont have xtra ingredients etc.

[elricken]

Thanks for your input. Not helpful but input nonetheless.

And a 3-5% drop rate on a 4-ingredeint recipe is a grind for most people. Sounds like it isn't for you but for most people it is.

320k pp for blood (what it's been on Sarlona recently) is expensive, btw, especially if you have to cough up as much for two of the other three ingredients. That's nearly 1 million pp for each set of boots. That's a lot, no matter who you are.

I've run Wrath and Shipment many, many, many times. Probably run Wrath 30-35 times in the past few weeks and haven't pulled anything. Haven't run Shipment as much lately but I cannot recall ever pulling any ingredient out of those chests. I think I had a guildie give me a Shimmering Arrowhead once months ago but that's it.

I am sorry you have had such poor luck getting the mats, that sucks. Maybe my experience with their droprates is not typical.

I have an extra two keepsakes atm, hit me up on morfane or cealest and we can work something out if ya want.

[elricken]

LOL

some people just don't read to well.

I have yet to say that I pulled mats for all of my characters in one afternoon.

Nor have I stated that I have pulled 3 bloods out of one bastion.

What I did state in my clumsy heavy handed manner is that at least to me it is not all that bad, I don't find it to be a grind. I also don't expect it to happen right away on any of my characters, run some amrath here run some there and before I know it that particular character is booted.

[AyumiAmakusa]

Not at all a grind, not in the slightest.

Did 30 runs of Perdition's Pass. Not a single drop. Not a grind? What does grind mean to you?

[toughguyjoe]

Lol so that's your response to my "let's fix the boot ingredient grind" thread?

Thx.

I do think it sucks that you have bad luck getting your boot ingredients. When the raid first came out I had the same problem. No ingredients would drop for me.

They increased the Drop rates. I was easily able to get Keepsakes, Iron and Artifacts. Blood still wouldn't drop for me.

They added Blood and Artifacts to Wrath. Problems were solved. I know that on Argonessen very few people have the problem if being short boot ingredients.

I don't know the exact numbers, and I'm totally feeling for you on not being able to get yours, but you having bad luck isn't a reason to revamp a system.

If a sizable group of players is experiencing the same thing though, you're on to something.

[elricken]

Did 30 runs of Perdition's Pass. Not a single drop. Not a grind? What does grind mean to you?

I have not experienced a grind for boot materials, I have never done 30 Weapons Shipment runs and not received a mat. My experience has not been a grind for TOD flagging/boots. I have always been able to trade for them or pull them in limited runs.

The op was a post about reducing grind in an area that I don't consider to be a grind, so I said as much.

[AyumiAmakusa]

I have not experienced a grind for boot materials, I have never done 30 Weapons Shipment runs and not received a mat. My experience has not been a grind for TOD flagging/boots. I have always been able to trade for them or pull them in limited runs.

The op was a post about reducing grind in an area that I don't consider to be a grind, so I said as much.

The OP did mention that there would be people like you who post saying that it isn't a grind. But you don't reflect what most others experience. Your previous posts imply that it is NOT a grind for ALL of us but that's just from your own personal experiences.

[elricken]

Debate about grind or lack of it aside, my suggestion for the op is:

You are most likely going to have to sacrifice something beit time or other items acquired in game

Things that will trade well for boot mats -

Blue Dragonscales
Red Scales from evon6
Platinum
Shroud Larges

I would also suggest running sins a few times, seems that I have had the best luck getting keepsakes from that particular instance. Shroud larges are not uncommon from there either, which can in turn be traded for boot mats.

I wish you the best of luck in acquiring your boot mats.

[elricken]

The OP did mention that there would be people like you who post saying that it isn't a grind. But you don't reflect what most others experience. Your previous posts imply that it is NOT a grind for ALL of us but that's just from your own personal experiences.

It is not just my experience but the experience of others as well, feel free to necro old threads about the same topic.

I have also had this discussion in game, and have found in that limited sampling that fair amount of players also find that there is no boot mat grind.

[soupertc]

It is not just my experience but the experience of others as well, feel free to necro old threads about the same topic.

I have also had this discussion in game, and have found in that limited sampling that fair amount of players also find that there is no boot mat grind.

if getting boots wasn't a grind then there would be no market for them in the 1st place. Pretty much anything of value in this game is a grind......Shroud Ingred,Epic Scrolls,Litany Tome Pages and well Boot Ingred. If they were as easy to obtain then they still wouldn't sell for 350k. Now I got boots on the 6 toons I run through ToD...most I looted...I got lucky. But I group with several people who play alot more than me and they have 1 or 2 that do.

[Thelmallen]

Thanks for all of the replies.

I have to say that they illustrate, however, what a random system like this makes: haves and have-nots. The 'haves' don't think that there's a grind at all because they pulled their ingredients and pulled them quickly. The 'have-nots', like me, possess terrible luck and still struggle to find what they need.

I took way too many stats classes over the course of my college years so I understand how it all works. I know that eventually things will come around but when you're talking a 3-5% chance to pull each of 4 ingredients, that's a lot of runs to smooth out the statistic wrinkles. Average that over 4 or 5 alts....you see what I mean.

[xxScoobyDooxx]

Curious, are you running these quests in a full group or Solo?

The reason I ask is that for three weeks a buddy and I were farming The Shadow Crypt for Devouts. We had runs down to about 8 minutes and ransacked twice and not a single rare dropped with two of us.

Last night 6 of us in group doing the same run. In run 3, Devouts drop, same in Run 4 and 2 more sets in run 6 and 7. Witching hours dropped and other rares as well. 4 devouts in 8 runs.

So ........ statistically it would seem that the size of the group increased the drop rate by more than 6 v's 2.

Also could have been luck but grinding for 25 plus runs over 3 weeks and getting nothing to pulling 4 sets in under 4 hours in one session ........ well.

Completely unscientific but hell 4 sets went to 4 monks in our guild ... a very fine day in the life of the grind.

did I mention .... 4 sets ... Devouts .... 4

lolz

[FluffyCalico]

You do know it takes less than an hr to grid a set of boots right?
And that you can do it solo right?

I have pulled enough mats for 4 pairs of boots since U5 despite the fact all my toons were booted before that... Boot parts are dropping like mad. The only people who can't get boots are those that haven't done the quests recently or those that are very poor. I mean seriously the price of boot mats has gone from about 500K to about 30K each since the U5 drop everywhere change.

[AyumiAmakusa]

You do know it takes less than an hr to grid a set of boots right?
And that you can do it solo right?

But they never drop for me....

Tomes, named items, Vale ingredients (including Large items), all yes. Boots ingredients? No.

Gonna hit the AH for this.

[DANTEIL]

You do know it takes less than an hr to grid a set of boots right?
And that you can do it solo right?

Augh. bangs head.

[Eladiun]

You do know it takes less than an hr to grid a set of boots right?
And that you can do it solo right?

I have pulled enough mats for 4 pairs of boots since U5 despite the fact all my toons were booted before that... Boot parts are dropping like mad. The only people who can't get boots are those that haven't done the quests recently or those that are very poor. I mean seriously the price of boot mats has gone from about 500K to about 30K each since the U5 drop everywhere change.

Agreed ran Wrath and Weapons last night and everyone pulled at least one component between the two quests. If you apply a serious effort you will have it in no time.

[Kyllinge]

Currently people are being banished while wearing the boots. Know 2 people so far, on 2 seperate raids.