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    Default Frenzied Berzerker a must?

    Ok...four years into game and I am finally leveling a barbarian. Here's my question: Is frenzied berzerker a must have?

    I don't see a ton of reasons not to have it, but having never leveled a barbarian...
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    yes, its a must

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamonkeysix View Post
    Ok...four years into game and I am finally leveling a barbarian. Here's my question: Is frenzied berzerker a must have?

    I don't see a ton of reasons not to have it, but having never leveled a barbarian.
    well, that deppends, will you get cleave on ur build? or not planning to? because if you will either way, then u could try see if it makes a big diff to u or not, if not, well, up to ur own judgement.

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    At the moment, I have elected to take a 18/2 Barb/Fighter split. Fitting in cleave won't be a problem. I have been planning to take FB, but nobody likes to be "that guy" who thinks a PrE is a good idea...to have everyone think you have lost it. (Sorry Deepwoods Snipers and Virtuoso Bards )
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    it is really good, for 10 hp you can get vicious and +2 stackable str, besides what else are healers for? and death frenzy is +4 str and vicious (both stack). in my opinion it is a must.

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    6d6 dmg on every hit, including glancing blows, is the best damage increase you'll ever get. (not to mention the extra strength)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamonkeysix View Post
    I don't see a ton of reasons not to have it, but having never leveled a barbarian...
    The only defensible reason for a new Barbarian character to not take Frenzied Berzerker is if you think you've made a really good guess about what the Ravager or Occult Slayer specialties will require and you want to wait for one of those instead.

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    Frenzied berzerker is a no brainier cleave sucks and damage boost sucks but it's well worth it.

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    Here's how powerful FB is.

    People used to consider Crit Rage overpowered. (It's an old Barb +DPS ability that cannot be taken any more).

    FB makes the few remaining Crit Rage barbarians look gimped. It is the only reason to take levels in the Barbarian class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirgog View Post
    Here's how powerful FB is.

    People used to consider Crit Rage overpowered. (It's an old Barb +DPS ability that cannot be taken any more).

    FB makes the few remaining Crit Rage barbarians look gimped. It is the only reason to take levels in the Barbarian class.
    This sums it up perfectly
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    I was debating if it was worth it myself.
    Go ahead and take it.
    You'll be pleasantly surprised.

    Just make sure you have a healer on standby

    I am hoping for Occult Slayer soon, though. A Barbarian with a high will save and spell immunities? Yes please.
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    It's a must. More than doubles your DPS, you've got less than a freakin battle cleric if you don't. :P

    +3 crit multipliers (19-20), +6d6 untyped damage on both swings and glacing blows, and +6 str.
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    Took it. Sorta sucks that you have to take cleave (lots of things that would be more effective), but it looks like FB really is a must have if you really want a full DPS barbarian.
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    Even though everyone always mentions the 6d6 vicious damage, the x3 crit muliplier is probably the part of FB that increases your DPS the most. It takes your critical hits (Greataxe as example) from the 175 to 200 range all the way to crits of 500+.

    My largest crit so far (that I've noticed) is 504 and I'm only partially geared up.

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    This...

    Quote Originally Posted by sirgog View Post
    Here's how powerful FB is.

    People used to consider Crit Rage overpowered. (It's an old Barb +DPS ability that cannot be taken any more).

    FB makes the few remaining Crit Rage barbarians look gimped. It is the only reason to take levels in the Barbarian class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talesin View Post
    Even though everyone always mentions the 6d6 vicious damage, the x3 crit muliplier is probably the part of FB that increases your DPS the most. It takes your critical hits (Greataxe as example) from the 175 to 200 range all the way to crits of 500+.

    My largest crit so far (that I've noticed) is 504 and I'm only partially geared up.
    I hadn't dusted off my Dwarven Crit Rage Barb (greataxe user) for a while. With pretty much the same gear and FB I'll crit 450ish by myself and up around 550ish with a bard. I was doing 200ish crits before FB.
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    Not only is it a must have, once you do it... you'll wonder how you ever lived without it.

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    I love it when you're dpsing portals in shroud and you dual wield vicious weaps and use both frenzies, its 8d6 per hand and 3d4 dmg to you per hand

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    Default Not sure about FB1

    I would have to say that you might not worry too much about getting FB1 at level 6. Make sure you pick up FB2 at level 12 (and FB3 at 18). At FB1, you pay the full price for small benefits. At the higher levels, you pay the same price (viscous damage) for huge benefits, and get harder crits as well.

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    With no other PrE, unless you have an old crit rage barbarian somewhere...there's no choice really.
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    Default keeping crit rage or not?

    With the tranfer of my old toons from the European servers to the US (thanks Turbine) I will be able to revive my barbarians from when lvl cap was 16.

    I've got a THF SoS wielding dwarf and a TWF Min2 heavy picks user. The first is my original 28 pointer from back in the day and will need a GR so he'll loose crit rage. The TWF barb i'm not sure of, keep crit rage grandfathered or not? Picks critting on 17+ for x4 or on 19+ for x6? And then there's the wop weapon setup to consider...

    It's been more then a year since I've played a barb and don't really know much about its 'new' PrE. Any advice?

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