a prime example of why the "power levleing xp penilty needs to go"

[ArichValtrahn]

New to the DDO Store - Potions of power leveling penalty removal

[KKDragonLord]

Explorers have a much larger level range. vale is 12-20+ i think. Orchard 10 - 19. and there is tons of xp to be had and you can play with your much higher level guildies. You might still need to pug or solo to try and catch up.

This.

and hirelings, or ask them real nice to make low level characters to help you level.

You are the only one stopping you from levelling.

Pugs aren't that bad most of the time and with the new Dungeon Scaling mechanics Soloing has never been easier.

[C-MOS]

Roll another character.

Good option.For some.

[TEcarson]

I can't read this, without thinking of this.

+1 - a hilarious cartoon and a very appropriate reference.

[Broldin]

Allowing power leveling to run rampant might make you happy, but it would be detrimental to the game. Aside from that, you're not going to do your friends that much good if you're 5 levels behind them. It's not the dev's fault you had to take a break. That was your choice, or a result of the circumstances of your life. You believe that the balance of an MMO with thousands of players should be upset simply to accomodate you?

Sorry, /not signed

[Hendrik]

But the fact remains that instead of going out and getting xp, which is not hard to do, the OP proposes to change the entire game for him.

Weak, and selfish.

So, in the face of a challenge, one that can lead to new friendships, open up the possibilities of learning new ways to do things, teach different ways to do things, create connections in the game community, the OP wants the game developers to recode the game for him.

And I get the neg rep? lol

QFT and I'll offset that Clay.

[moomooprincess]

So, a level 8 player thinks this when you join the group, do you care? Do you offer to leave group?

[Krag]

Actually I don't see the reason to institute double penalty for powerlevelling.

As long as the group is not above the quest there is no need to penalize lower levels individually.

[SaIamander]

.... it's a 6 month necro! I'm quite sure he's either caught up by now or finding another game where people look at rainbows and sniff flowers together

[jennick52]

+1 when i'm able to give it again, nobody's pulled that one on me in awhile

Thats what he said.

[Broldin]

Actually I don't see the reason to institute double penalty for powerlevelling.

As long as the group is not above the quest there is no need to penalize lower levels individually.

Yes there is. Power-leveling is detrinmental to MMO's. This is why every successful modern MMO has systems in place to prevent it. These measures are not there by accident. It is done for the good of the game. Leave it alone.

[justhavinfun]

Not being able to be power leveled needs to stay in place exactly the way it is for many reasons.

1) While being power leveled you do not learn anything about the game or the way the character works. This makes you more of a hinderance than an asset to the other players when you party on level.

2) Could possibly limit the gear that you could collect while being run thru quest for your xp.

3) Exploitable. "Yes I will power level you but you must pay me XXXXX pp for my time and pass any loot that I ask for to me. Also in theory one quest could be used to make more than one level.

4) old farmers and power levelers would pop up and destroy the game.

I have played MMO's where power leveling could occur and have seen all of the above scenarios. I firmly do not beleive in power leveling and enjoy and appreciate what DDO has done to stop it.

[vVAnjilaVv]

Pfft....sorry OP, there is one level range where you don't have to worry about this anymore....17-20.

Asking Turbine to change the game because you don't have the time to keep up is absurd.

[muffinlad]

If you got access to the Vale of twilight pack, ask them to help you get the slayers, rares and explorers there.

The vale and other higher lvl wildernisses don't have any powerleveling restrictions anymore, and at lvl 12 you are allowed to enter it.

If you and they keep patient, they should be able to get you to lvl 15 quite quickly, maybe even lvl 16 (all slayers together there are roughly 300kxp alone)

boomeranky,

Well done. While everyone else was playing "lets beat the noob" (regardless if it was deserved or not...Wall of Text ahoy), you came up up with a constructive way for him to play with his team-mates.


+1 Indeed.

Regards,

muffinmercy

Edit: Doh! Caught by the NecroMachine. I will be turned into a Thread Golem in no time...

[Krag]

Yes there is. Power-leveling is detrinmental to MMO's. This is why every successful modern MMO has systems in place to prevent it. These measures are not there by accident. It is done for the good of the game. Leave it alone.

The penalty for bringing a higher level toon into a lowbie quest is perfectly fine and appropriate. We don't want easy buttons, do we?

The second penalty is however uncalled for. Being low level does not make quest any less challenging. Nor does it make a toon contributing less.

[Aztek]

Good option.For some.

I propose a New Year's resolution for you... .. if you see a thread hasn't had any discussion for six months and it was about a very specific situation that is probably long gone... let it die.

Do Not Resucitate.

Is this topic interesting in terms of "hey how can i keep up with my friends if they play more than i do"? Possibly.

Is this particular thread a helpful discussion of this topic? or mainly a flame vent? i stopped reading after page 2 or top of page 3, realizing it was a zombiefied thread and mainly a flame vent up until that point.

[Thrudh]

For the record. I was not asking for a ow-ow give me free xp. I was saying a reduction in the over all well you cant play with your friends, aka the whole reason I started playing this with out getting nothing at all penalty. this is the only game I have played that screws over someone completely for falling behind others , wow ,lothro, coh all have a nurf but not a complete you get nothing out of it for having a high lv toon do drag alongs , and 200 xp per 1000 normal is not going to be quick , it means you will have to run 5 times more runs to get the same xp. In the long run this would help keep people playing.

As for the English majors comment on hey you forgot periods. This is a forum not a class document or a letter for a formal situation, so thus I did not proof it, sorry my bad I'll go get my 20 lashes for it.

The problem is, you'll never catch up if they get 1000 exp and you get 200 xp...

You might have to solo or learn to PUG a little...

And you should practice writing clearly. You send an email like that in the real world, and you will be working minimum wage your whole life.

[Thrudh]

Yes, -1 for necroing a thread this old.

[samthedagger]

i am a non hard core player that took a few weeks off game for real life during that time the rest of my guild managed to get thier toons from level 12 to lv 16 and 17 now i can't do any thing with guild members and i greatly dislike pugs to the point that i will not run them unless i absolutely have to and now i am forced to becuse any time i enter a dungon now i get the you are being powered leveled so you get no xp i understand the orginal intent behind this but with ftp and ptp some players are going to advance way faster than others my recomandation for fixing this is to cap out the xp given to 30% even 20% would not be unresonable not 0% that way we could still play with high level toons and not be screwed if someone has to take time out of the game .

Compare this with:

I am a non-hard-core player who took a few weeks off of the game for real life. During that time the rest of my guildies managed to get their toons from level 12 to level 16 and 17. Now I can't do anything with guild members, and I greatly dislike PUGs to the point that I will not run with them unless I absolutely have to. Now I am forced to because any time I enter a dungeon with my guildies I get the "you are being powered leveled" penalty so I get no XP. I understand the original intent behind this, but with FTP and PTP some players are going to advance way faster than others. My recommendation for fixing this is to cap out the xp given to 30%. Even 20% would not be unreasonable; but do not leave it at 0%. This way we could still play with high-level toons and not be screwed if someone has to take time out of the game.

Do you see how version 2 flows much easier and is easier to understand that version 1? Learn to do this and people will learn to take you more seriously.

As for the issue itself, DDO's method of addressing power-leveling is rather inelegant, but it works for its intended purpose, which is to say that it prevents high-level players from helping low-level players advance through quests they would be less capable or incapable of advancing through themselves. I understand the inconvenience of the OP, but sometimes life is inconvenient. How you deal with it can help you build character. If you don't like playing with PUGs you can either: 1) learn the quests yourself so that you can lead a group effectively or 2) learn the quests yourself so you can solo effectively. Either way you learn. When life deals you lemons, you make lemonade.

The method you recommend would not address the issue. All it would result in is the disparity between yourself and your guildies getting wider. If you get 20% of the XP they receive, they will still advance more quickly. But if you learn to run successful PUGs (and it is possible, especially if you are a good leader) or learn to solo, then you will have an easier time of catching up to your guildies to the point where you can adventure with them without getting an XP penalty.

[Postumus]

ancient thread - nm.