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    Default What is with all the clerics on strike?????

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    They nerfed clerics in the last update... they took away our healing aura untill Radiant servant 2 and took away our ability to extend and empower... way uncool especially considering some of us myself included completely retooled our enhancements to get Radiant Servant and it makes us less effective healers we got nerfed pretty hard actually read the patch notes... we want it fixed

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    This isn't quite true. Empower still works. The reason why we lost some effectiveness is the aura (and burst for that matter) are apparently no longer considered spells for the purposes of gaining +2 to caster level. Hence, those clerics that were hitting at 23 per tick since they were casting as level 22 for a base of 7 are now getting 17, casting at level 20 for a base of 6. Extend was taken away, though.

    Edit: typo, the 6 above was a 17.

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    The changes went beyond the release notes. They reduced the effectiveness of empower healing, took away cleric levels from the aura, and screwed up the targeting. They also changed crits in a way that makes them much less useful. (repeated spike damage is always better, repeated spike healing is just wasted).

    I'd join in too, I am on Argo. But I don't believe in messing with someone else's gaming experience to vent my frustrations. I'm just not going to renew my sub when it's up in August. Call it stealth nerf fatigue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClericDude View Post
    This isn't quite true. Empower still works. The reason why we lost some effectiveness is the aura (and burst for that matter) are apparently no longer considered spells for the purposes of gaining +2 to caster level. Hence, those clerics that were hitting at 23 per tick since they were casting as level 22 for a base of 7 are now getting 17, casting at level 20 for a base of 17. Extend was taken away, though.
    Empower healing is only working at 50%, not 75%

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    Quote Originally Posted by justagame View Post
    Empower healing is only working at 50%, not 75%
    Radiant servant gives you a bonus 25% to empower heal for a total of 75%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hydro View Post
    Radiant servant gives you a bonus 25% to empower heal for a total of 75%.
    But that is not working on the aura according to the other thread.
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    Rabblerousing, while amusing to watch, seldom solves problems.

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    This thread is pretty cool. Have a good short life little thread!
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    Seriously Turbine, please take the time to respond to:

    1. Was empower healing working only at 50% on the aura and burst intended?
    2. Was the nerf to cleric levels for the aura and burst intended? If so, why?
    3. Please acknowledge the targeting issues that many people have raised
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    I guess our clerics will just be afk or not currently running anything.
    Time to roll up some lowbies and rent-a-healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justagame View Post
    Seriously Turbine, please take the time to respond to:

    1. Was empower healing working only at 50% on the aura and burst intended?
    2. Was the nerf to cleric levels for the aura and burst intended? If so, why?
    3. Please acknowledge the targeting issues that many people have raised
    Perhaps if these questions were asked in a ....more direct and delicate way... rather than asked within a thread so emotionally charged, the CMs might be able to see and respond to them.
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    i hope your not serious about the aura.... its too OVERPOWERED! i mean come on! its not like ya had it before U5.

    i think it should definitely stay nerfed as it is now (if they did because of low lvl aura spamming clerics? then yes!)

    if you want to be a battlecleric... GO PALADIN! (sry, i think you dont know what you're talking about)

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    Didnt know about all this. Never played a cleric before.
    Last edited by Cubethulu; 07-21-2010 at 11:38 PM.
    For some, hope is not enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by RecklessDawn View Post
    This also does not compare to the Featherfalling ring of featherfalling I own, nor the Docent with clickies of neutralize poison. My personal favorite is a warforged race required helm of underwater action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandryte View Post
    Perhaps if these questions were asked in a ....more direct and delicate way... rather than asked within a thread so emotionally charged, the CMs might be able to see and respond to them.
    Do a search, I have asked multiple times myself, in multiple threads. Do a search and tell me if you think they've been out of hand. The problem is, every time I post the question, it is followed by a series of posts telling people to stop whining, it's better than what clerics had before, roll a fvs instead, etc. It all gets drowned out.

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    Who need's clerics anyway.

    WF are the master race.

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    i find it funny.. they cried they wanted a prestige class, they got it.. turbine changed the way it works they cry...

    the good clerics can still do fine they bad clerics are the ones on strike .. good thing i can solo just about anything i want =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heynrich View Post
    i find it funny.. they cried they wanted a prestige class, they got it.. turbine changed the way it works they cry...

    the good clerics can still do fine they bad clerics are the ones on strike .. good thing i can solo just about anything i want =D
    That's quite the wide paintbrush you have there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revenftbm View Post
    Who need's clerics anyway.

    WF are the supreme race.

    Who would want to be the master of a bunch of gimps?


    Anyways, back to the topic.... so clerics that could heal just fine before radiant servant are now complaining that radiant servant isnt as great as it was before?

    You see, this is why you dont respec your character for a pre until after the devs are done with it. Like update 6 or 7.

    The pre just came out, shame on you for thinking it wasnt going to fiddled around with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erikst View Post
    if you want to be a battlecleric... GO PALADIN! (sry, i think you dont know what you're talking about)
    My battlecleric is fine, thx

    But back to topic:

    I really don't get what all the complaining is about... aura goes for over one and a half minute and does what it should without having unlimited healing.

    It is still a great prestige. It was not balanced before (not overpowered) and it was totally clear that something would happen to it. So i really don't understand why some people totally rebuild their char although everybody who looked at the system should have guessed that it would be changed around.

    And a char that was changed to be better as a RS is still good at it. Imho all the cleric crying is just the usual "My class should p0wn everything else and if it doesn't I'll just cry around on the forum till it does"

    I would have rather seen the regeneration been slower and the duration been higher... but people wouldn't have liked this either.

    All in all I'll continue playing my clerics as normal and wonder why the hell people log on in the game if they just want to stand around and strike, instead to do something useful in RL or w/e.

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