RANT: Yep i hate the Risia Ice Games

[sainy_matthew]

Ok, it was all fun and games when it first came out because it was new & shinny, but as time went by i realized that i really really really disliked them. I've never gone ice skating before so i can't speak to the level of realism, but i can say "The Risia Ice Games is not fun."

I kept my mouth shut though because i figured as soon as the season was over it would go away. But like a lingering cold it just keeps on coming back. You think you've got rid of it, you go outside into the harbour & BANG! Its back.

So now the chat logs are flooded with people swapping ice coins for recipes. Hey, heres an idea turbine. How about you come up with a mini-game that relies on player skill, rather then having a particular build, (wasting countless resources to fake having a particular build,) farming for hours & possibly including a special "seasonal chat screen" so the rest of us don't have to suffer through listening to people swamping normal chat with conversation about the freaking ice games.

Is it just me, or are there other people out there sick and tired of the freaking Risia Ice Games?

-M

p.s your physics engine for ice skating really really REALLY sucks.

[AyumiAmakusa]

I sort of hate it.

1) Complete and utter grind-fest.
2) More grind.
3) Grinddddddddddddddddddddddddd.

Reasons I like it.

1) People will grind to make icy weapons, etc.
2) I'll buy the weapon from those willing to grind for it.
3) I can make an Eternal Wand of Frost. Not useful but I'm a sucker for Eternal wands.

The point is, if you don't like it, ignore it, if people spam the general chat trading for coins, don't use the general chat.

[Spisey]

Hi Welcome

[Llewndyn]

The point is, if you don't like it, ignore it, if people spam the general chat trading for coins, don't use the general chat.

Why should she not use general chat when the idiots spamming gen chat trading are using it wrong? Daggertooth is that you?

And it IS friggin annoying... and the prices are disgusting... anyone who spends 25k plat on an eternal frost wand that does 1d3 + 1 per caster to 5 please PM me I have a bank full of Korthos cra- I mean, priceless treasures that may interest you.

[Shanadeus]

Why should she not use general chat when the idiots spamming gen chat trading are using it wrong? Daggertooth is that you?

And it IS friggin annoying... and the prices are disgusting... anyone who spends 25k plat on an eternal frost wand that does 1d3 + 1 per caster to 5 please PM me I have a bank full of Korthos cra- I mean, priceless treasures that may interest you.

I had someone getting mad at me because I had too sensible buy prices, apperantly you have to pay tens of thousands of plats or you're decieving people.

It's a lot of fuzz over an ice upgrade.

[Talonaise]

The entire reason for the Ice games, is the competition with a certain other MMORPG .. ::cough, WOW, cough::

If you have never played that game, they have taken this concept to the limit there -- there are multiple holidays throughout the year, with a wide variety of achievements you can earn by playing those games. The games roughly coincide with traditional western holidays (Halloween, Christmas, Valentines day etc). Most involve running around the world collecting stuff, but there are also boss battles and weird little skills/twitch tests. Overall amusing, and I have forced myself to participate on occasion and have had fun, while others have just been a grind.

Back to DDO -- I hate the ice games, for the same reason as most -- I suck at them . However, I do like that they are offering stuff to do while we wait for raids to form, or just when you are bored. I also would like to see greater variety of activities to do. I loved the egg hunt, which was cool and was kind of hoping to see a wow like seasonal games form here. As DDO grows with the free to play, they are trying to keep those free players by offering them some of what they had in different games.

Great Love it make it -- but don't forget that what most of us want is MORE CONTENT!! WAY MORE CONTENT == And NOT LEVEL 5 content!!!! Most of us have multiple capped toons, and what we like to do is new and different content for those capped toons. While I do love epic, I would like to see more than just a re-hash of old things by making them epic. I would love to see ... :gasp: new raids! If each update always brought one 12 man level 20 raid... sweet.

and while I am making list of things I will never get --- I want a pony My toons need to ride across stormreach in style. Oh yea and a real guild bank. and... oh heck might as well stop there.

[Glenalth]

The entire reason for the Ice games, is the competition with a certain other MMORPG .. ::cough, WOW, cough::

Just about every other western MMO out there and even some of the eastern ones do this. It's just another popular diversion that MMOs have assimilated into their game to make the worlds feel more alive and give some variations on day-to-day activities.

[badbob117]

I have started to make some new classes do to being totally bored with the lack of high level content. So for me making that +1 icy burst/flaming great axe of pure goodness and other weapons like it, are actually keeping me around. Toying with new builds and whatnot.

I do agree that we need more content but this was already created a while ago. Why not bring it back every few months. It gets the economy moving, It gets players interacting with each other in trade chat and at the top of the jump. I actually made a few new gamer friends this go around just talking with fellow jumpers. It is not that bad of a festival. Sure the physics can be wonky and tough on lower level players, But It is not as hard as everyone makes it out to be.

I personally think they brought it back as a little perk for so many bugs and what not happening post update 5. Same as the +2 loot bonus we had awhile back. that was a perk for having prolonged downtime. This was just the devs way of saying "sure we messed up a bit, rushed things, your auctions Vanished! Here have sum icy weapons and cookies for your troubles while we sort it out"" It could have been worse. They could have done nothing and just left us to chew on bugs instead of cookies n icy chilly blue potions.

I to hate certain missions and raids in this game. I choose to just ignore those ones. You do not have to jump for coins or ride a halfpipe. Just walk on by and carry on with whatever you were doing.!!!

[Wizard_Zero]

I never done Ice Games and probably never will, but:

1.) It's one of the few things F2P can do to make good money.
2.) I like Ice Burst on any weapon of my choosing, I just pay some PP and their it is.

It makes a lot of people happy with better weapons and rich. So I guess in the end,t hat is all that matters.

[Aurora1979]

Ok, it was all fun and games when it first came out because it was new & shinny, but as time went by i realized that i really really really disliked them. I've never gone ice skating before so i can't speak to the level of realism, but i can say "The Risia Ice Games is not fun."

I kept my mouth shut though because i figured as soon as the season was over it would go away. But like a lingering cold it just keeps on coming back. You think you've got rid of it, you go outside into the harbour & BANG! Its back.

So now the chat logs are flooded with people swapping ice coins for recipes. Hey, heres an idea turbine. How about you come up with a mini-game that relies on player skill, rather then having a particular build, (wasting countless resources to fake having a particular build,) farming for hours & possibly including a special "seasonal chat screen" so the rest of us don't have to suffer through listening to people swamping normal chat with conversation about the freaking ice games.

Is it just me, or are there other people out there sick and tired of the freaking Risia Ice Games?

-M

p.s your physics engine for ice skating really really REALLY sucks.

No, you're not alone. I dislike it alot too. I dislike the reuse of it. 3 times in 1 years a bit much. They could've come up with something new.

I have tried it and funny enough I thought the physics engine was odd too but i assumed that was just me as so many other people rave about how fantastic the event was i just figured i was a muppet who couldnt do it.

TBH I brought a kit last time it was around... was nice, sure, but i wont bother again.

Ill go with Ayum I think and just ignore it this time round.

[epochofcrepuscule]

....They could've come up with something new.....

They still haven't fixed many of the update 5 bugs, do you really want them implementing something new? If they did, we probably wouldnt have a ddo left to play!

[Aurora1979]

They still haven't fixed many of the update 5 bugs, do you really want them implementing something new? If they did, we probably wouldnt have a ddo left to play!

agreed, but illogical. Yea update 5 is full of bugs... so if thats the concern then dont hold the ice games. I would rather they put something new out tbh. they wont fix these bugs in any short time so are we stuck with the ice games for all eternity? there will always be something that needs fixing.

They should try multi tasking

[Gobbothegreen]

Really people, how exactly does having ice games stop them from fixing bugs? All they have to do to have the ice games is press a button. How exactly this hinders them from bugfixing is beyond me.

Please people, stop the whining it doesn't make things go faster.

[Sinni]

How about you come up with a mini-game that relies on player skill, rather then having a particular build, (wasting countless resources to fake having a particular build,)

Uhm... build? Take any char, get a jump buff (house P or J) and house P fav pendant and you are all set.

you may be able to speed it up with abundant step or leap of faith, but that's hardly how it was intended. you can easily get a lot of puple coins without any special build or help from others

[Buggss]

Uhm... build? Take any char, get a jump buff (house P or J) and house P fav pendant and you are all set.

you may be able to speed it up with abundant step or leap of faith, but that's hardly how it was intended. you can easily get a lot of puple coins without any special build or help from others

Let's compare this: Using abilities restricted to certain classes is "ok" because it "only" speeds things up.

Right....

In other areas of the game "Just speeding things up" was a serious exploit and usually fixed quickly. There're plenty of examples but mentioning them here would probably get the post or the thread deleted. So the only difference is based on how little of an effect the ice games has on the game. That means that between those who are fast enough and those who are too lazy to farm for themselves and can't afford the inflated prices charged, guess who ends up winning all round?

GOLD-FARMERS!!!

Simple way to retain the useful benefits of the games and to prevents the economy going insane again?

Make the recipes that drop BOA, therefore the burst kits still have their effects but economy remains stable and farmers have to work harder to ply their trade.

..... How about you come up with a mini-game that relies on player skill, rather then having a particular build.....

This....

[Lithic]

Let's compare this: Using abilities restricted to certain classes is "ok" because it "only" speeds things up.

Right....

In other areas of the game "Just speeding things up" was a serious exploit and usually fixed quickly. There're plenty of examples but mentioning them here would probably get the post or the thread deleted. So the only difference is based on how little of an effect the ice games has on the game. That means that between those who are fast enough and those who are too lazy to farm for themselves and can't afford the inflated prices charged, guess who ends up winning all round?

GOLD-FARMERS!!!

Simple way to retain the useful benefits of the games and to prevents the economy going insane again?

Make the recipes that drop BOA, therefore the burst kits still have their effects but economy remains stable and farmers have to work harder to ply their trade.



This....

Seriously? Plat farmers is your rant? I haven't gotten a plat-spam in MONTHS, on any character (and none of mine are anonymous).

As for abundant step being an exploit, it is hardly the fastest way to farm coins. I use to farm them on a ranger with jump + house P pendant, and would get them as fast or faster than the abundant steppers.

[katana_one]

I don't like the Ice Games, I don't hate the Ice Games. They don't matter enough to me to care one way or the other. I just ignore them, and General Chat, and keep playing my game.

Same thing goes for Festivult (good lord, I've got tons of cookies just laying around from last time), and the Egg Hunt (ran it once just to see then deleted all tokens).

[Crann]

As for abundant step being an exploit, it is hardly the fastest way to farm coins. I use to farm them on a ranger with jump + house P pendant, and would get them as fast or faster than the abundant steppers.

It doesnt take anything more in a build than this. If you are leveling a FvS or monk for this jump, you are working way too hard. If you are having issues with the big jump in the harbor, then there are a couple places you can jump off of quickly for a couple whites and a blue.

Some people are looking at this wrong.

If you don't like it, don't participate.

If you think they should program another type of event, instead of re-using one they already have invested time in creating...

...there is a long list of issues that need addressed first, and a longer list of people who would rather see those issues corrected before they dedicate resources to creating new events.

[Hjarki]

I have no issues with the Risia Ice Games as a game event.

The real issue is the Icy weapons. All Turbine really needs to do is put in an alternative (non-stacking) method of placing an elemental burst on a random weapon, and you'd see all the complaints about Risia Ice Games disappear.

[SquelchHU]

Seriously? Plat farmers is your rant? I haven't gotten a plat-spam in MONTHS, on any character (and none of mine are anonymous).

As for abundant step being an exploit, it is hardly the fastest way to farm coins. I use to farm them on a ranger with jump + house P pendant, and would get them as fast or faster than the abundant steppers.

I've gotten an occasional in game mail with 1 copper attached. It's very rare though.