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    Default Maxing Out Dex for Halfling Light Monk

    Hi there, I'm a noob to the monk class. I've been reading up on different builds and I see that alot of them rely on tomes to get stats up the spec. Let's just suppose that I can't afford tomes (unless I pick them up of course). I also have no plans of reincarnating (I see alot of talk about 34pt builds). Would the following stats be fine to start with? Please give me your insights.

    Hafling Monk (32pt Build)
    STR 12 - sarificing DPS for better WIS
    DEX 18 - AC + TWF requirements - trying to save on tomes
    CON 14 - i've been told that this is satisfactory
    INT 8
    WIS 16 - AC + Special Attacks DC (+5 this is my level stat)
    CHA 8
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    Yeah, that could work. Wouldn't be bad at all.
    Just make sure you get a +1 STR tome at some point so you can get Power Attack.*

    *By level 10ish you should be able to afford a few +1 tomes, if you hadn't looted them by that point.
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    thanks for your quick reply

    truth is I already have a +1 STR tome lying around hehehe

    I just want to make sure I'v got the right stats before I use it up.

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    Just assume you will be able to get all the +1 tomes you want, and a pair of +2's, eventually, and at least.

    +3 and up would be where it gets iffy.
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    Great!


    Also, worst case scenario: you could always lesser reincarnate, and swap all you stats around, however I don't see a problem - you should be just fine!
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    It looks ok to me, but to be honest I think 18 starting dex costs too much on a monk.

    If you start at 16 instead you could better spend those stat points elsewhere.

    More Strength or more Con would be the best options in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crinos View Post
    It looks ok to me, but to be honest I think 18 starting dex costs too much on a monk.

    If you start at 16 instead you could better spend those stat points elsewhere.

    More Strength or more Con would be the best options in my opinion.
    Well 18 DEX costs as much for a halfling as 16 DEX costs for say a human. 20 DEX is their max you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikien View Post
    Well 18 DEX costs as much for a halfling as 16 DEX costs for say a human. 20 DEX is their max you know.
    Yup. Nonetheless I still think it's too expensive for a monk.

    You could have 14 strength for an extra +1 damage, or the better choice in my opinion 16 con for an extra 20 HP, +1 to fort saves and access to 1 tier higher of earth strikes. Those are my main elemental strikes when TOD is on cooldown, and allow me to prime my x4 crit multiplier finisher for taking down stunned mobs faster.

    You should be hitting on a 2 even starting with 16 dex anyway, so the only thing you really lose out on is 1AC and -1 to reflex saves.

    Edit: I'll leave the original post there, but note that it's based on my false assumption that level ups would be going into Dex. I failed to spot that they are going into Wis. Given that, my comments were incorrect.
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    When you say that wisdom is your level stat, I'm assuming here that you're going to be putting the 5 points from leveling into wisdom.

    If you ever plan on running this character on some high-end content you're going to struggle in the to-hit department. If you still want to really focus on wisdom I'd recommend something like take halfling dex 1+2, then place 3 level points in dex and the other 2 in wisdom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maestro973 View Post
    When you say that wisdom is your level stat, I'm assuming here that you're going to be putting the 5 points from leveling into wisdom.

    If you ever plan on running this character on some high-end content you're going to struggle in the to-hit department. If you still want to really focus on wisdom I'd recommend something like take halfling dex 1+2, then place 3 level points in dex and the other 2 in wisdom.
    Ah, good point. I missed that. Ignore my previous comments about not having trouble hitting anything starting with a 16 dex.

    I wouldn't advise putting your level ups into Wis, but if that's really what you want to do then I see why you want to start with 18 dex.

    I'd second maestro' suggestion. If you are really intent on putting stat points into Wis his suggestion of 3 in dex and 2 in wis sound like the best compromise to me.

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    what do you mean by "take halfling dex 1+2" +2 tome?

    i'm planning to take Weapons Finesse.. would that still give me to hit problems with 18 dex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumsborres View Post
    i'm planning to take Weapons Finesse.. would that still give me to hit problems with 18 dex?
    no , your to-hit will be ok if you take weapons finesse.

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    I'm going to say probably.I'm not sure if thats before or after switching off power attack.

    A Wis build, might, be possable, there was one person saying they wern't having torubles, but well...

    Honestly, with the damage sacrifice from potentialy power attack and low str, your extra Wis might not be worth anything at all *shrugs*

    Also, I recomend 16 con for Tier IV Earth strikes to go with one of the more useful stances for higher DPS.

    I also feel manditorly obliged to reccomend considering using a feat swap to change from Light to Dark later on(9+), as currently with double hitting ToD, stacking incoprability and invis and SA damage, dark monks have a lot of nice perks from level 9... While Light monks, quite unfortunatly, won't see a PrE rewrite till U7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasam01 View Post
    I'm going to say probably.I'm not sure if thats before or after switching off power attack.

    A Wis build, might, be possable, there was one person saying they wern't having torubles, but well...

    Honestly, with the damage sacrifice from potentialy power attack and low str, your extra Wis might not be worth anything at all *shrugs*

    Also, I recomend 16 con for Tier IV Earth strikes to go with one of the more useful stances for higher DPS.

    I also feel manditorly obliged to reccomend considering using a feat swap to change from Light to Dark later on(9+), as currently with double hitting ToD, stacking incoprability and invis and SA damage, dark monks have a lot of nice perks from level 9... While Light monks, quite unfortunatly, won't see a PrE rewrite till U7
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    ok... what about this... I was under the impression that WIS has become more important after Update 5.

    STR 12 = this time sacrificing DPS for chance to hit
    DEX 18 = its more important to hit mobs than to stun them (+5 level up stats)
    CON 16 = more HP and Earth Stance
    INT 8 = huh?
    WIS 14 = sacrifice stunning for hitting ^_^
    CHA 8 = i'm ugly but i'm celibate anyway so it doesn't matter

    i'm taking weapons finesse of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blumsborres View Post
    ok... what about this... I was under the impression that WIS has become more important after Update 5.

    STR 12 = this time sacrificing DPS for chance to hit
    DEX 18 = its more important to hit mobs than to stun them (+5 level up stats)
    CON 16 = more HP and Earth Stance
    INT 8 = huh?
    WIS 14 = sacrifice stunning for hitting ^_^
    CHA 8 = i'm ugly but i'm celibate anyway so it doesn't matter

    i'm taking weapons finesse of course...
    You don't have any +2 tomes banked?

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    nope... just assume i can't afford +2 tomes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blumsborres View Post
    nope... just assume i can't afford +2 tomes...
    I can do that, but I want you to consider how many stats a monk needs to have at a decent level. Even if you only purchase a +2 dex tome from the AH you can start with your dex a little lower. I had a +2 wis and a +2 dex tome ready when I built my monk. I have added a +3 con tome and +2 tomes in everything else and I have a +3 str and a +3 int tome banked in case I decide to LR.

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    yes... but i'm trying to build a monk without having to use tomes... because.... i don't have that many plats and i don't have that many TPs
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    Quote Originally Posted by blumsborres View Post
    yes... but i'm trying to build a monk without having to use tomes...
    That is like trying to build a Mercedes without Germans.

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