9 monk 11 rogue

[Donthorn]

First off, thanks to everyone who tried to help me with my favored soul/arcane archer, but it became evident that it just wasnt going to work out the way that i wanted it to in order for it to be fun for me, so i decided to go back to the other combo that has been plaguing my mind.

I wanted a good survivability dps with full rogue skills and i really love the monk style of things, this is what i came up with, i dropped assassin 2 because 12 rogue would still only give me either improved evasion or slippery mind, with going 11 rogue and 9 monk i can still achieve both, and keep 1d10 unarmed dmg, also 12 rogue vs 11 rogue and the extra monk adds 1 to all saves across the board and +1 to bab.

I could of planed the levels out a bit better to get a better result on my end skills, but i was to lazy to redo it all, im mainly wanting to just bounce the feats and main idea off you guys. The thought process is unarmed two-weapon fighting, with 7d6 sneak attack, +9 from enchancement. 1d10 unarmed dmg, and the ability to use adept wind stance +power attack for dpsing, and adept earth stance + combat expertise + imp. uncanny dodge when i need some defenses. I also really wanted to put Touch of death in so i could atleast burst some big numbers.

What do you guys think?

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Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(9 Monk \ 11 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 270
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 18
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    22
Dexterity            15                    20
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom               12                    16
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    27
Bluff                 4                    22
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy             4                    22
Disable Device        7                    23
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                  2                     3
Hide                  7                    31
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  5                    21
Listen                2                     3
Move Silently         7                    31
Open Lock             7                    28
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                3                     3
Search                7                    21
Spot                  6                    25
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                5                    14
Use Magic Device      4                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Feint


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Rogue)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Monk)


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind


Level 16 (Monk)


Level 17 (Monk)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 19 (Monk)


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
Enhancement: Monk Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Jump II
Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
Enhancement: Monk Tumble I
Enhancement: Monk Tumble II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II

[theb]

How about 12 monk, 7 rogue, 1 fighter, halfling? Or even 1 wiz and get dragonmarks, for style if not practicality.

[Donthorn]

The halfling suggestion was pretty good, i reworked it using a halfling and the saves are much much better, the str dropped off a bit tho, but do you think this looks better overall? also my last feat i could not decide to take the +1 to atk, +1 to all saves, or do something like discipline or even another toughness, what do you think?

I wish it wasnt so painfully obvious that its better overall in the saves and ac department, i really despise being short, but even tho this wont be a powergamer build, the powergamer inside of me says deal with it.

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Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(9 Monk \ 11 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 270
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 21
Will: 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    20
Dexterity            16                    22
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom               12                    16
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    16
Bluff                 3                    25
Concentration         2                    26
Diplomacy             3                    18
Disable Device        6                    26
Haggle               -1                     0
Heal                  1                     3
Hide                  7                    22
Intimidate           -1                     0
Jump                  2                    14
Listen                1                     5
Move Silently         7                    18
Open Lock             7                    29
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                2                     3
Search                6                    26
Spot                  5                    26
Swim                  2                     5
Tumble                n/a                   9
Use Magic Device      3                    23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Feint


Level 7 (Monk)


Level 8 (Monk)


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)


Level 14 (Monk)


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Rogue)


Level 17 (Rogue)


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Luck of Heroes


Level 19 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Fortitude) I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Fortitude) II
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I
Enhancement: Touch of Death
Enhancement: Fists of Iron
Enhancement: Porous Soul
Enhancement: All-Consuming Flame
Enhancement: Winter's Touch
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Assassin I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
Enhancement: Monk Jump I
Enhancement: Monk Jump II
Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
Enhancement: Monk Tumble I
Enhancement: Monk Tumble II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II