Need opinion on my Arcane Soul

[Donthorn]

The Fvs class is one that intrigues me greatly, and the arcane archer is a prestige that ive been desperately trying to work in with offensive casting that is reliable without gimping the archery side to much. I have found this to be very frustrating and pain staking, but after countless build wipes and revamps i came up with this....

I want to also know opinions on will my dc be high enough with necromancy? thats all im going for with this build. and also no spell penetration feats, is that going to kill me? im taking 2 penetration enhancements, is that enough? i can probably drop something out to take 3 ranks of the enhancement to penetration

No toughness, hps be ok for being at ranged?

No improved crit or improved precise shot, i couldnt fit these in without droping dc to necromancy, but i was able to put in precise shot so i at least can fire at will

Does this build work at all in your eyes?

Im using 32 point build, and i only factored in using 1 +2 dex tome at 7 so i could get manyshot, obviously using more and better tomes by the end would alter things. I will have to use tomes and items for high enough cha to cast my spells, i took 1 ranger lvl for free bow str, and i took 1 wizard level so i could take elven arcanum 1 for prequest for AA, and also the free metamagic feat as well.

My skill points are complete **** as well =/ Thanks in advance for any pointers and opinions, ill check back frequently to see what you all think

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Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
(1 Ranger \ 1 Wizard \ 18 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 196
Spell Points: 1665 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 17
Will: 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    14
Dexterity            15                    19
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               17                    24
Charisma             10                    11

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                     6
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         5                    24
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                  3                     7
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                     6
Listen                3                     9
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  3                     9
Swim                  2                     2
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Silver Flame
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 4 (Favored Soul)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire


Level 8 (Favored Soul)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Favored Soul)


Level 11 (Favored Soul)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 13 (Favored Soul)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 16 (Favored Soul)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 19 (Favored Soul)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Burst Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Fluidity I
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longbow Specialization II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I

[jadenkorr]

Someone has done up this class split before, it might be helpful to compare the differences (if any).

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...ht=blade+kiter

[Donthorn]

Its similar yet very diffrent, that build is focusing on blade barrier kiting, i am trying to make a build that has necromancy DC thats respectable enough to be effective end game, and still enough archery focus to be viable ranged dps, and i would really love to not drop my 1 lvl 9 spell in the process

Thank you for the post link tho, its nice to see someone else has a somewhat similar idea.

[Donthorn]

I was thinking about the metamagic feat i take, and im starting to think heightened would be a better choice then empowered since i will be focusing mostly on necromancy spells, and empowered would only effect some of them vs heightened helping increase my dc by 2

[unbongwah]

Could you list your spells? Kinda hard to recommend metamagic(s) without knowing what you're casting...

[supp3nhuhn]

You don't need force burst arrows to qualify for slaying arrows.
Precise shot isn't that great if you can't get imp precise shot, so i'd suggest loosing it in favor of spell penetration (if you intend to cast destruction or slay living) or empower (if you want to cast mainly harm and inflict).

[Donthorn]

I was told that atleast precise shot was a must if your doing archery otherwise you have to worry about positioning in groups to much, if this is false and workable without i will defiantly do that without hesitation

As for spells that i was thinking of taking as far as offense ( i wont list the very low lvl ones that ill just be using to level up and will abandon once i get stronger spells ) and ill have standard heals and your typical dps buffs along with spell resistance, raise dead, Greater restoration, deathward, freedom of movement, doom/bestow curse and energy resistance line

lvl 9
Energy Drain

lvl 8
Mass inflict Critical wounds

lvl 7
Destruction
Symbol of weakness

lvl 6
Harm
Undead to Death

lvl 5
Slay Living

lvl 3
Contagion

[Impaqt]

I was told that atleast precise shot was a must if your doing archery otherwise you have to worry about positioning in groups to much, if this is false and workable without i will defiantly do that without hesitation

As for spells that i was thinking of taking as far as offense ( i wont list the very low lvl ones that ill just be using to level up and will abandon once i get stronger spells ) and ill have standard heals and your typical dps buffs along with spell resistance, resurrection, Greater restoration and energy resistance line

lvl 9
Energy Drain

lvl 8
Mass inflict Critical wounds

lvl 7
Destruction
Symbol of weakness

lvl 6
Harm
Undead to Death

lvl 5
Slay Living

lvl 3
Contagion

Not really a good combonation here... The only Useful Ranged Necro Spells you are dealing with is Destruction and Harm. Slay, Symbols, Inflict... All close range, Gota be in the mix to cast em... With less than 300 hit points.. Not a good combo for serious end game content.

Also seems your healing/Buffing capabilities are severly compromised.

You cant Heal. Your cant Stand toe to toe with tough mobs. Your Ranged DPS is poor and your to hit will be mediocure at best.

[Donthorn]

With a standard bow, at lvl 20 and a +6 item and +4 tome to dex, using my summoned arrows, i would have a bare min of 31 ab with silver flame enhancements, +6 from divine Favor, +1 from bless, thats 39 with 2 simple buffs. Add Divine Power, and i gain 6 more for that duration, bringing it up to 44 ab.

As far as damage goes with ranged, +6 item +4 tome plain +5 arrows and buffs with standard bow and enhancements nets 23-30 dmg standard hit non crit. Then you can factor in the various arcane archer triggered effects added, +dmg effects from higher quality arrows or bows. All that being added together still comes up short?

As far as the hps thing, if i could sneak toughness in there i would and then id drop enhancements to take toughness enhancements but i just dont know how to do it without killing either my casting or my archery, i could maybe drop precise shot for toughness, but then im still stuck with 1 metamagic

[Donthorn]

I took out precise shot for toughness and reworked enhancements to get all the toughness i could and this is what it looks like now

Should be able to get this version over 400 at 20

If i didnt need the dang metamagic feat so desperately i would swap one of the classes for a monk splash for a significant ac boost =/

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Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
(1 Ranger \ 1 Wizard \ 18 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 278
Spell Points: 1635 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 17
Will: 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    14
Dexterity            15                    19
Constitution         12                    12
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               17                    24
Charisma             10                    11

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               4                     6
Bluff                 0                     0
Concentration         5                    24
Diplomacy             0                     0
Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                  3                     7
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                     6
Listen                3                     9
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                    -1
Search               -1                     1
Spot                  3                     9
Swim                  2                     2
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Silver Flame
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Ranged Weapons


Level 4 (Favored Soul)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot


Level 7 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire


Level 8 (Favored Soul)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 10 (Favored Soul)


Level 11 (Favored Soul)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 13 (Favored Soul)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 16 (Favored Soul)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Necromancy


Level 19 (Favored Soul)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Acid Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Explosive Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Force Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Slaying Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Imbue Terror Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcanum I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elven Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Silver Flame Exorcism
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longbow Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Longbow Specialization II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +2 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +3 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +4 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer: Conjure +5 Arrows
Enhancement: Elven Arcane Archer I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV

[Donthorn]

Edited, made a mistake and i cant figure out how to delete this specific post

[Impaqt]

With a standard bow, at lvl 20 and a +6 item and +4 tome to dex, using my summoned arrows, i would have a bare min of 31 ab with silver flame enhancements, +6 from divine Favor, +1 from bless, thats 39 with 2 simple buffs. Add Divine Power, and i gain 6 more for that duration, bringing it up to 44 ab.

As far as damage goes with ranged, +6 item +4 tome plain +5 arrows and buffs with standard bow and enhancements nets 23-30 dmg standard hit non crit. Then you can factor in the various arcane archer triggered effects added, +dmg effects from higher quality arrows or bows. All that being added together still comes up short?

As far as the hps thing, if i could sneak toughness in there i would and then id drop enhancements to take toughness enhancements but i just dont know how to do it without killing either my casting or my archery, i could maybe drop precise shot for toughness, but then im still stuck with 1 metamagic

14 BAB
7 25 DEX
5 Arrows or Bow
2 Elf
1 WF
1 Silver Flame
---
+30 Unbuffed
6 Divine Power
3 Divine Favor (Caps at +3)
1 Bless
---
+40

Decent.. but still considered low for most high end content.

I think an archer without Both Precise shot feats and Improved crit is highly Undesireable in most groups.

Be an Arcane archer or be a Necromancer. Trying to do both is incredibly difficult to pull off.