A REAL VIP perk

[Jay203]

I can't believe more people don't think this is a good idea. Premium players wouldn't have to be left out. Maybe there could be a TP purchase for the same effect.

then what's the point of this thread...? >_>

[Redlotusninjagrl]

I do raid a lot and although I think this benefit would be great, I don't think it is very fair. It would be nice if VIP's got better bonuses as we are the steady income. I know planety of premium players spend money too, but it is more sporatic. Even as a VIP, when points go on sale I buy them up for mana and xp potions for when they go on sale (thanks for the 50% off!) and have bought some TR's and GR's when those were on sale too. I have probably spent close to $300 outside of my monthly fees over the last nine months. It would be nice to have some better perks. Opening on hard and having content a few days earlier, while nice, isn't really much of a perk to me. I think we get the monk, warforged race and shared bank too which is nice. And the TP isn't a good deal either. I don't want to have to think about buying content and keeping track of what I own which is why I don't go premium. I can afford the monthly fee so I perfer it for simplicity. But it would be nice to have some better perks though when I look at it on paper, it looks like we have it pretty good already. Reduced raid timers? I would love it, but I don't see that as being very fair.

[KKDragonLord]

I Agree VIPs should get an extra Perk (and i'm premium)

I Agree lower Raid timers would be something significant enough to justify VIP completely

I do not think it is a good idea though, no matter how beneficial that could be for grinding purposes, which might even not be a good thing in the end because it would strain the play time too hard for most people.

If the purpose and concept is to lower the grind, another option would be improving the odds of VIPs getting raid/unique loot. But maybe that isn't the way to go either.

Perhaps VIP could get more free stuff, like maybe, free quest guest passes, or a free new store item 2 weeks before the release to the public, a bunch of monthly free guild boat enhancements or free guild stuff like those crystals. Double duration for guild buffs, or make them not go away after death. A choice of store stuff per month, like teleport rods, ring of friends, bell of openings.

Its kinda like what Sony is doing with its new subscription service, giving away a bunch of "free stuff" that people might not even want but will sign up for because its "free".

Instead of curtailing sales, that actually generates interest in things that those people don't usually buy but get used to having.

[bubbazen]

A better VIP perk would allow us to trade plat for Store points to purchase Astral Diamonds and Guild Ship amenities. It really stinks that VIP's have to spend real money in order to get something that would have normally dropped from a chest or would be an end reward before the DDO store was created.

[jwdaniels]

I do raid a lot and although I think this benefit would be great, I don't think it is very fair. It would be nice if VIP's got better bonuses as we are the steady income. I know planety of premium players spend money too, but it is more sporatic. Even as a VIP, when points go on sale I buy them up for mana and xp potions for when they go on sale (thanks for the 50% off!) and have bought some TR's and GR's when those were on sale too. I have probably spent close to $300 outside of my monthly fees over the last nine months. It would be nice to have some better perks. Opening on hard and having content a few days earlier, while nice, isn't really much of a perk to me. I think we get the monk, warforged race and shared bank too which is nice. And the TP isn't a good deal either. I don't want to have to think about buying content and keeping track of what I own which is why I don't go premium. I can afford the monthly fee so I perfer it for simplicity. But it would be nice to have some better perks though when I look at it on paper, it looks like we have it pretty good already. Reduced raid timers? I would love it, but I don't see that as being very fair.

You forgot the six extra character slots, which is a HUGE benefit, and the "free" points every month.

[Redlotusninjagrl]

You are right. I did forget about the extra character slots, but I did mention the tp already. But this wasn't really a thread about how awesome (or lack thereof) being VIP is. I was suggesting in response to the OP that decreased raid timers for VIP's, though nice, would in my opinion be unfair.

[KKDragonLord]

A better VIP perk would allow us to trade plat for Store points to purchase Astral Diamonds and Guild Ship amenities. It really stinks that VIP's have to spend real money in order to get something that would have normally dropped from a chest or would be an end reward before the DDO store was created.

I do feel like the way things in ariship are devised as a means to continuously suck you out of TPs for the greater good of your guild, is a sleazy money grubbing system even if its just a means of paying for short term products in a timed fashion.

If VIP got those for plat, it would be discouraging for F2Ps and Premium to be the only suckers who have to pay into the system, and for those people TPs are much more valuable than the benefits provided.

[Kyln]

A better VIP perk would allow us to trade plat for Store points to purchase Astral Diamonds and Guild Ship amenities. It really stinks that VIP's have to spend real money in order to get something that would have normally dropped from a chest or would be an end reward before the DDO store was created.

You do get TPs monthly though right? I am not a VIP, so as a premium player I don't really know, but my impression was that you normally got free TP each month in addition to what you get through favor. This allows you to purchase diamonds, albeit at a slow rate, for no additional cash right?
I'm only curious here, as I only spend TP's so far on things like adventure packs, races, classes, etc. that either cannot be unlocked in game, or requires a favor level I don't want to wait for when the unlock is on sale for 50% off in the store. I have wondered if VIP's spend points on tomes, or reincarnations, etc., since many things are already unlocked.

[systemstate]

I'm all for any additional perks to VIP's, no matter what they are. There are some I would like more than others, but a perk is a perk. I don't care if it's a free +1 flaming sword of lesser kitten bane. It's still something else I get for my monthly subscription.

As for the non VIP-folks complaining about VIP's wanting more... If you make a choice not to subscribe, then why complain about what VIP members do or don't get- or even want to get for that matter?

The only way a VIP benefit is going to make any difference to a non VIP is if the perk somehow unbalances the game.

[Dysmetria]

As for the non VIP-folks complaining about VIP's wanting more... If you make a choice not to subscribe, then why complain about what VIP members do or don't get- or even want to get for that matter?

Because many of us didn't just make a choice not to subscribe. We made a choice to pay more up front to buy the benefits of a subscription for life instead of renting it by the month based on the benefits and perks at the time.

[AyumiAmakusa]

/no

Because the Premium and the VIP people who do raids together all the time will now have a weird schedule.

[systemstate]

Because many of us didn't just make a choice not to subscribe. We made a choice to pay more up front to buy the benefits of a subscription for life instead of renting it by the month based on the benefits and perks at the time.

...Which is a choice to not subscribe.

[testing1234]

im against unbalancing items in the DDO store,
a VIP perk is someting you buy with real life money do not think it should be someting you cant get ingame

[Redlotusninjagrl]

...which Is A Choice To Not Subscribe.

Qft!!!

[Dysmetria]

...Which is a choice to not subscribe.

Fair enough.

Likewise you made your choice to subscribe. If the few perks are no longer enough for you, feel free to choose to stop subscribing.

[Zzevel]

im against unbalancing items in the DDO store,
a VIP perk is someting you buy with real life money do not think it should be someting you cant get in game

The entire DDO store is a VIP perk in your definition, say a +1 Supreme Tome, you can buy that with real money can't you? If you can find it in the game let the rest of us know which quest to look in! or how about 1/2 the other store loot available that is Real money only? Isn't that a bit of the Pot calling the kettle black? If you want a VIP perk, you need to be a VIP plain and simple, either way it costs you money.. think of it as a prereq.

[Razcar]

While VIP really needs some perk added, I'm not sure this is it. I think it might be better to just give VIP's 1000 TPs a month instead of 500.

[flaggson]

absolutely... vip's need another perk... otherwise there wouldn't be so much incentive to make so many players go premium.. which probably constitutes a lot of the /no's that are appearing here... I say /yes... make a reason.. some reason... to actually be vip

and if your premium and you quit over it.. good riddance... you've already paid your $100 or so.. so turbine already has everything they need from you

[systemstate]

Fair enough.

Likewise you made your choice to subscribe. If the few perks are no longer enough for you, feel free to choose to stop subscribing.

Haha, too true. And believe me, I've been considering going to premium for some time now.

[Hafeal]

/not signed; if you need to raid that quickly, create more characters and/or play on more servers.

The backlash would make the one regarding U5 look quite mild in comparison.

LOL. What backlash? Typical post-mod hub bub which has died down quicker than most. We haven't had serious 'back-lash' since before the announcement of DDO:EU.