2 handed weapon rogue without splash viable

[Thechemicals]

im not interested in twf rogue and was wondering if i could use the thf instead. I dont see anywhere in rogue abilites that having a twf is better for them so i dont understand why players state that the twf is required for good rogue dps. So far i have been told that getting a 2hf rogue is giving up alot of dps. Can someone show me where this is written in rogue abilities? I prefer using a big sword to do my sneak damage.

ps; I also dont plan on splashing any other class with my rogue.

[richieelias27]

The very large majority of a pure rogues damage comes from sneak attacks. Two weapon fighting = more sneak attacks. Therefore, Two weapon fighting is more damage than Two handed fighting.

[LordPiglet]

You'd aslo have use a feat to be proficient. I think the only 2 handed weapons available to a rogue are simple weapons (greatclub and q-staff)

[sigtrent]

im not interested in twf rogue and was wondering if i could use the thf instead. I dont see anywhere in rogue abilites that having a twf is better for them so i dont understand why players state that the twf is required for good rogue dps.

In DDO characters have an attack animation sequence. A character with one weapon gets 4 attacks in the time period. A character with two weapons gets additional attacks in the sequence depending on how developed their two handed fighting style is.

If you get a fixed bonus to any given attack (as rogues do with sneak attack) the more attacks you get in the same time, the better damage you will do over a given period of time.

TWF is rewarded on any character getting these kinds of bonuses. THF tends to reward characters with very high strength since that is magnified by the THF style unlike most other bonuses.

[Club'in]

Is it optimal? No. Is it fricken fun as hell to be gettin sneak attacks from a great axe/great sword? Hells yeah!

Best bet is human for the extra feat. Forget dex, put everything into strength and con. Maybe consider warforged because they have two handed fighting bonus enhancements. Or halfling for the cunning/guile enhancements (those can help offset the -2 to strength a halfling starts with).

[Vynnt]

While it would be cool to have a great axe/sword, your potential is much greater with TWF due to the huge amount of sneak attack lost by not having an offhand weapon. (and feat on an already feat starved class).

If you want a THF rogue, you should try out Thief-Acrobat and use a qstaff.

[Anthios888]

If you want a THF rogue, you should try out Thief-Acrobat and use a qstaff.

This. Read over the acrobat feats and the rogue capstone and you're going the right direction.

[Thechemicals]

This. Read over the acrobat feats and the rogue capstone and you're going the right direction.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH! This is very useful, this is a great community here :P

Although i wanted to be swinging a 2h sword with haste, a q-staff sounds pretty stylish also. Reminds me of The black Girl in Red Sonja.

[Club'in]

And the quarterstaff animations, in my opinion, are some of the coolest in the game.

[mtlhead70]

I stand behind my 2hf w/ greatsword;human w/ Greatsword action kicks axe! Very soloable; BEST toon I've played; lovin it, n that's the name of the game.

[unbongwah]

I think the only 2 handed weapons available to a rogue are simple weapons (greatclub and q-staff)

Actually, greatclubs are martial weapons. I guess swinging a giant tree branch is something only professionals should attempt. Staves are a rogue's only 2H weapon proficiency.

Maybe consider warforged because they have two handed fighting bonus enhancements.

Last time I checked, everyone said the WF THF enhs were bugged; have they been fixed yet?

[GhoulsTouch]

I splashed Paladin in for my rogue who didn't take any chain, neither THF or TWF for the use of martial weapons and for better saves. When I single target I use twitching and when I attack a group I use cleave and great cleave.

Here is what he looks like so far, believe it or not dex and wis were my dump stats. I have 4 plus item on them now. By twentieth level I will have another enhancement and level up in dex though.

http://my.ddo.com/character/thelanis/enderoc/

I have found something else interesting, besides cleave and great cleave being on different timers bluff and improved feint is also on different timers. So if I am doing a bit of one on one I can jump, bluff in mid air,strike when I come down, then Improved feint, then strike again and get two sneak attacks on something face to face.

[ArichValtrahn]

Last time I checked, everyone said the WF THF enhs were bugged; have they been fixed yet?

There are two WF bonuses.. Power Attack (which works) and the glancing blow bonuses.. which are not worth the trouble anymore (and I still dont think they worked to begin with). so PA is the only relevant bonus. Still worth doing though.

Either way, Rogues should go TWF for sneak attack damage as others have stated.

[Bodic]

Build what you want how you want. You can ask for advice and opinion, but in the End if you get what you want and its not broken you dont need to fix it, so tell the Haters to Stuff and fluff else where. Imho I would splash 2 barb, but thats me.

[Talesin]

The Question is... do glancing blows have sneak attack damage as well?

I kinda doubt it... but if it does you may be able to make a fairly viable WF THF rogue.

[Kinesthetic]

The Question is... do glancing blows have sneak attack damage as well?

I kinda doubt it... but if it does you may be able to make a fairly viable WF THF rogue.

Nope.

[Razcar]

The Question is... do glancing blows have sneak attack damage as well?

I kinda doubt it... but if it does you may be able to make a fairly viable WF THF rogue.

No they don't.