/rant

[Gol]

Stupid late penalties are a load of BS.

I joined an at-level von 5 pug last night after they had started. By the time we get to the end, I have the most kills, but yet I still have a "-50% because you arrived late and contributed less". Really? REALLY?!!?!

I wasn't the only one. 4 of us were still sitting at -50%. By our math, it couldn't have been 5 more minutes until the penalty was gone when a couple of the non-penalized people decided they'd start the iron golem fight anyway.

Alt-F4. No, I'm not sorry. I told them I wasn't about to waste my first time bonus on being over level (we had a level 13 in the party) AND a -50% late penalty. So I didn't.

Then, I switch to my FvS for an ev6 run. Yark! Epic FAIL von 6, that is. Multiple base 3 wipes because whoever was over there couldn't handle it, even with help. Multiple base 1 wipes b/c base 3 was taking so long... 3 SP pots later... /release

/rant off

Just venting. Move along.

[Eladiun]

I wasn't the only one. 4 of us were still sitting at -50%. By our math, it couldn't have been 5 more minutes until the penalty was gone when a couple of the non-penalized people decided they'd start the iron golem fight anyway...

This is the thing I have never understood. People in such a hurry to get nowhere. Get up grab a drink, take a bio...it's the same thing with letting someone go back to get the part 4 chest in the shroud if they didn't get a rez. It takes a minute to be a nice guy and help someone out.

In my book good for you they got what they deserved.

[SaisMatters]

Gee Gol, get a grip
I like you, we've played together lots over the years. Your a good player, but last night you acted like a 10 year old. I was the leader of that party. If you would of stayed and finished instead of D/Cing and leaving than you would of gotten YOUR FULL XP just like the OTHER four did! My Guildie was the second last to join and she popped over 20,000xp.

[Gol]

If you would of stayed and finished instead of D/Cing and leaving than you would of gotten YOUR FULL XP

Must be nice to be able to tell the future. I had no reason to believe that would be the case. Neither did you nor anybody else in the party for that matter.

[QuantumFX]

If it makes you feel better: It looks like the ice games are near. The Thursday my.DDO lottery involves Hot Cocoa.

[Asialee]

I was with you on that ev6 run... hope things go better the next time we run together

[Gol]

If it makes you feel better: It looks like the ice games are near. The Thursday my.DDO lottery involves Hot Cocoa.

OOoooo.....

I would have just gotten extra sleep last night had I known that. I tend to stay up waaaayyy too late when Ice games are up.

[SaisMatters]

Must be nice to be able to tell the future. I had no reason to believe that would be the case. Neither did you nor anybody else in the party for that matter.

Actually, my Guildie pointed out to you and betted you a 1000 plat, I believe ,that you would get full xp. You also failed to mention WE did wait for 5 minutes to see if time would bring it up. Next time, instead of taking your ball and going home cause you didn't get your way, suck it up, and see what happens.

[Gol]

Actually, my Guildie pointed out to you and betted you a 1000 plat, I believe ,that you would get full xp. You also failed to mention WE did wait for 5 minutes to see if time would bring it up. Next time, instead of taking your ball and going home cause you didn't get your way, suck it up, and see what happens.

Take my ball and go home? Did me leaving have any effect on the party? I said I wouldn't be staying for von 6 anyway. Me leaving was more like the benchwarmer going to the showers with 1:00 on the clock when the team had a 10 point lead.

[SaisMatters]

Take my ball and go home? Did me leaving have any effect on the party? I said I wouldn't be staying for von 6 anyway. Me leaving was more like the benchwarmer going to the showers with 1:00 on the clock when the team had a 10 point lead.

Of course it didn't have any effect on the party. Its Von 5.
But you coming to the forums and starting a thread complaining about something you did to yourself, trying to play the victim is the problem.
Listen Gol, I'm sorry you felt you had to DC. As I said previously, I enjoy playing with you and think your a hell of a player. But the fact is, if you would of stayed you would of gotten full xp.

[Gunga]

I've seen this lately....I think the neg XP timer is borked.

We were in on some quest in the vale for elite xp the other day. Somebody came in late. We were at the end fight, he asked if we could wait until his penalty was gone, we obliged.

5 minutes.

Another 5 minutes.

Still taking a 50% hit.

We say we're just gonna end it, he says fine.

FULL XP awarded.

[Phax]

I've seen this lately....I think the neg XP timer is borked.

We were in on some quest in the vale for elite xp the other day. Somebody came in late. We were at the end fight, he asked if we could wait until his penalty was gone, we obliged.

5 minutes.

Another 5 minutes.

Still taking a 50% hit.

We say we're just gonna end it, he says fine.

FULL XP awarded.

The problem is likely that the XP report only updates upon certain events happening (ie monster died, trap disabled, etc. etc.). Time passing is not one of them. So while the penalty went away because time had passed the UI did not update.

[SaisMatters]

The problem is likely that the XP report only updates upon certain events happening (ie monster died, trap disabled, etc. etc.). Time passing is not one of them. So while the penalty went away because time had passed the UI did not update.

So even if we had waited an hour it still might not of updated.

[Gunga]

The problem is likely that the XP report only updates upon certain events happening (ie monster died, trap disabled, etc. etc.). Time passing is not one of them. So while the penalty went away because time had passed the UI did not update.

Excellent. Thanks for the response.

[iamsamoth0]

None of my business, had to step in to hit Phax with a +1.

[Missing_Minds]

The problem is likely that the XP report only updates upon certain events happening (ie monster died, trap disabled, etc. etc.). Time passing is not one of them. So while the penalty went away because time had passed the UI did not update.

I don't suppose you can tell us the times then, so we can start our own timers, please.

[KoboldKiller]

Gee Gol, get a grip
I like you, we've played together lots over the years. Your a good player, but last night you acted like a 10 year old. I was the leader of that party. If you would of stayed and finished instead of D/Cing and leaving than you would of gotten YOUR FULL XP just like the OTHER four did! My Guildie was the second last to join and she popped over 20,000xp.

Quick question? Did you indicate to Gol that you would wait for the timers to expire? Otherwise how was he to know?

[SaisMatters]

Quick question? Did you indicate to Gol that you would wait for the timers to expire? Otherwise how was he to know?

He originally asked to wait 5 minutes to see if the xp would come back, which we did. After the 5 minutes, everyone else was willing to go, including the other 4 late comers. People were getting antsy. I was pretty sure he would get near full xp, which he would of.
As Phax said above, its not about the time!

[Lithic]

Must be nice to be able to tell the future. I had no reason to believe that would be the case. Neither did you nor anybody else in the party for that matter.

You should know that any penalty only applies to base exp. Whether you are doing a quest for the first time on normal, or for the 6th time on normal, if you have a -50% penalty due to late entry you always only lose 50% of base. You don't also lose 50% of your bonuses.

[Gkar]

Take my ball and go home? Did me leaving have any effect on the party? I said I wouldn't be staying for von 6 anyway. Me leaving was more like the benchwarmer going to the showers with 1:00 on the clock when the team had a 10 point lead.

Isn't 50% xp for the time you invested better than 0% for the time you invested?