TR dilemma

[weewoo0]

ok well i'm planning to TR my paladin once and then once more into one of these 2 builds (-1 dex for first TR). i can't decide if evasion and a few more saves is worth losing 3d6 from the capstone 2d6 or 3d6 per divine sacrifice per hand and divine might 4 . if you have any suggestions or opinions that might sway me pls comment with em here.

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kilab mankuke
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(20 Paladin) 
Hit Points: 352  517 w/ 45 hp GS 30 hp gfl dt 60 from a con 6 20 from minos and 10 argo favor
Spell Points: 275  425 sp w/ conc op sp item 
BAB: 20\20\25\30\30
Fortitude: 22  lot higher yet no clue how to get the real one.....
Reflex: 17
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    23  ending 32 str
Dexterity            16                    18  ending 24 dex 
Constitution         14                    16  ending 24 con
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             16                    23  ending 32 cha

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    15
Bluff                 3                     6
Concentration         2                     6
Diplomacy             3                     6
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                3                    11
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            3                     6
Jump                  3                     6
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  3                     6
Tumble                n/a                   5
Use Magic Device      5                    17

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Human Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I


Level 2 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II


Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I


Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II


Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II


Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III


Level 17 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite IV
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice III


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Weapons of Good
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might IV

[u][b]
kilab mankuke
Level 20 Lawful Good Human Male
(18 Paladin \ 2 Monk) 
Hit Points: 397  562 w/ current equipment aka minos con 6 belt gfl dt and draconic vitality
Spell Points: 245  395 when concordant opposition necklace is done
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 26 planner says 34 equipped but i know it doesn't like counting divine grace so i have no clue here..... maybe a 44?
Reflex: 22  same deal as above.... not a clue what it'd actually be..... planner says 30 equipped
Will: 18  ok..... how do i calc these saves? tbh i don't entirely know.

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25  final str 34
Dexterity            16                    18 final dex 24
Constitution         14                    16 final con 24
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             16                    21  final cha 30

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               7                    18.5
Bluff                 3                     5
Concentration         2                     7
Diplomacy             3                     5
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                3                    10
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                  3                     4
Intimidate            3                     5
Jump                  6                    12
Listen                0                     1
Move Silently         3                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                7                     9
Use Magic Device      5                    16

 Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Monk Balance I


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I


Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I


Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II


Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I


Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice I


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good II


Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II


Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II


Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II


Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice II


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV


Level 17 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might III


Level 19 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite IV
Enhancement: Paladin Knight of the Chalice III

can't decide i lose DPS with the 2 monk levels but is evasion worth it?

[Kza]

Evasion alone is absolutely not worth it. But you gain 2 feats also. Both roads very viable. Do you want 2 feats + evasion (do you need the 2 feats to get the toon you want?) or do you want the extra dps. It is alot of dps tbh AND remember that if you plan for endgame (epic) you can turn more or less any epic weapon into good beaters vs devils thanks to the good damage from capstone.

Personaly i really like splash of 2 monk levels but most ppl see that this sacrifice of dps are just too much.

[Zapkill]

I prefer the pally/monk dual wielding kopeshes. They are a lot of fun and the holy sword kopeshes make up most of the dps gap.

[Gercho]

Depends on what you will be doing more time with your char, if you will be running solo or shormanned most of the time (including the time after you get to lvl 20) then the monk splash is better, if you plan to spend most of your time running raids or epics at lvl 20, then go pure.